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Old 21-Aug-2007, 10:28 PM
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Ringlands fried?

The last few days ive noticed oil residue coming from the gasket where the exhaust manifold meets the block right where the top studs go in , i know its not coming from the valve cover gasket. Im running 7 psi on my setup right now and not sure if blowby is the culprit.

I have my pcv valve gutted and dumped to the atmosphere aswell and the other nipple off the VC cover. I thought this would be sufficient enough to let the engine breath

I plan on doing a leakdown/compression test in the next few days to get a better reading of whats going on, but until than anyone have any ideas...imput..anything lol
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Old 21-Aug-2007, 10:42 PM
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check for oil in your charge piping first
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Old 21-Aug-2007, 10:44 PM
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theres no oil in the charge pipes ive taken them off recently just out of curiosity, im using a restrictor style fitting so i dont think thats the case...no smoke comes out of my tailpipe either in idle...or boost.
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Old 22-Aug-2007, 12:41 AM
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leaking down from the cam seal maybe?

Trust me, you'd KNOW if the ringlands were shot.
7psi isn't anything to worry about, a friend of mine's been running 12-14psi daily on his stock boosted LS and its been going strong for a while now. Those engines can handle 275-300whp all day.
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If your valve cover breather is open air then just look for excessive white smoke there, dead give away. also your motor will feel and sound alot different. compression/leakdown wouldnt hurt though.

Open that crank case up! excessive + crank case pressure kills rings/ringlands. the valvecover breather isnt enough.
either ports on the VC or back of the block. Itll save your motor.
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Old 22-Aug-2007, 01:10 AM
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also can you get us a pic?
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Old 22-Aug-2007, 02:17 AM
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i will take pics tmrw!

i know when boosted you want more ventelation, but i thought a gutted pvc and VC open to air would be sufficient for 7lbs..what about pcv to pre turbo for better venting
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Old 22-Aug-2007, 09:30 AM
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then you'll have oil/vapours going through your turbo, which i personally wouldn't want.

I'd look into an exhaust slash cut, this way the oil/vapours will go through your exhaust instead of your turbo.

I'm using the crank vent mini-system and i like it so far. I've also used it on a freshly rebuilt turbo engine and i feel it helped with the break in process quiet nicely. A few months after, we did a compression test and the results were exactly what we hoped for. Did another test after a year of constant abuse....same thing.
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Old 22-Aug-2007, 11:40 AM
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the cheapest and easiest crank case vent. drill and tap the front of the VC with 1/2npt barbs to some make shift catch can, hell you can use a pop bottle if you really want. But the valve cover breather and pvc are not enough.
Theres a 2.5" pipe raming air into your motor and pressurizing it even @ 7lbs you need to be able to get all to +pressure out of the crank case and the 3/8 vc breather wont do.
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Old 22-Aug-2007, 12:41 PM
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If you do the exhaust slash like zeeman mentioned, make sure you do it after your cat(if you have a cat).
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Heres a pic of what im refering to oil coming from the manifold/gasket...and you can see all around the the outlets of the manifold oily resedue.

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doesnt look like anything serious to me, but thats probably because I see dirty engines all day.

To be sure, clean it off well, then see if it comes back after a day or two of driving.
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actaully pull your plugs and check for carbon/oil build up
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whats the exhaust slash cut all about, i run both of my vents open on my car. Vented the vc to atmosphere and took my pcv out and ran a tube to the ground.

you guys think thats good enough?
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Originally posted by brianmcgaugh
Open that crank case up! excessive + crank case pressure kills rings/ringlands. the valvecover breather isnt enough.
either ports on the VC or back of the block. Itll save your motor.
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UPDATE

took the engine apart and i noticed the valve stem seals are crapped by cyl#1 now i DO plan changing all my seals, but not till nov or so when i put the car away. My question is now should i keep boosting with the seal leaking..its not affecting compression really..the only thing is oil mixing in the combustion chamber would lower my octane rating soo...boosted ppl what do u think.....
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Id fix it asap.
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Originally posted by brianmcgaugh
Id fix it asap.
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while its apart why wouldnt you fix it? It'll take like $60 and an hour or two depending on your skill level.

Oil/carbon gives you a greater chance to detonate. If you detonate a few times, you'll be doing more than replacing valve seals.
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Originally posted by BoostedEh2
UPDATE

took the engine apart and i noticed the valve stem seals are crapped by cyl#1 now i DO plan changing all my seals, but not till nov or so when i put the car away. My question is now should i keep boosting with the seal leaking..its not affecting compression really..the only thing is oil mixing in the combustion chamber would lower my octane rating soo...boosted ppl what do u think.....

Just do the job properly the first time...replacing seals isn't much work anyways.
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