zc or b16
22-Aug-2005, 01:29 AM
#5
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Oh god yes. There is no comparison speed wise. As long as the B16 is going into a hatch you can buck any stock NA 4cyl out there. Think about it. You'll be faster than any RSX,Integra, Prelude,SE-R. You'll even be able to hang with GTP's,Some Beemer's and Benz's, Audi's,VW 1.8t's and VR6's almost EVERYTHING. and even some plain assed 5.0litre's.You'll be faster than 80% of the car's on the road.
The only thing's faster are $40,000+ luxury car's,Done up V8's and the CobaltSS and SRT-4 which are both around $30,000.
Join the Club and get some real speed. Spend the extra money, If you love driving you won't regret it. With a ZC you won't be any faster than plain integra's and other car's with bolt on's.
The only thing's faster are $40,000+ luxury car's,Done up V8's and the CobaltSS and SRT-4 which are both around $30,000.
Join the Club and get some real speed. Spend the extra money, If you love driving you won't regret it. With a ZC you won't be any faster than plain integra's and other car's with bolt on's.
22-Aug-2005, 02:12 AM
#6
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Originally posted by Dr.K
Oh god yes. There is no comparison speed wise. As long as the B16 is going into a hatch you can buck any stock NA 4cyl out there. Think about it. You'll be faster than any RSX,Integra, Prelude,SE-R. You'll even be able to hang with GTP's,Some Beemer's and Benz's, Audi's,VW 1.8t's and VR6's almost EVERYTHING. and even some plain assed 5.0litre's.You'll be faster than 80% of the car's on the road.
The only thing's faster are $40,000+ luxury car's,Done up V8's and the CobaltSS and SRT-4 which are both around $30,000.
Join the Club and get some real speed. Spend the extra money, If you love driving you won't regret it. With a ZC you won't be any faster than plain integra's and other car's with bolt on's.
Oh god yes. There is no comparison speed wise. As long as the B16 is going into a hatch you can buck any stock NA 4cyl out there. Think about it. You'll be faster than any RSX,Integra, Prelude,SE-R. You'll even be able to hang with GTP's,Some Beemer's and Benz's, Audi's,VW 1.8t's and VR6's almost EVERYTHING. and even some plain assed 5.0litre's.You'll be faster than 80% of the car's on the road.
The only thing's faster are $40,000+ luxury car's,Done up V8's and the CobaltSS and SRT-4 which are both around $30,000.
Join the Club and get some real speed. Spend the extra money, If you love driving you won't regret it. With a ZC you won't be any faster than plain integra's and other car's with bolt on's.
23-Aug-2005, 10:46 AM
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Location: Digby Nova Scotia
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MY Buddy put a ZC in his 92 EG hatch and has a hard time finding aftermarket parts for it because it doesnt fall into the b or d class engine and he really wishs he would have gotten the b16 for sure. and my other friend blew his d16 with a turbo cause he didnt know what the hell he was doin and bought the b16 and says he can play with corvettes but I dunno about that
23-Aug-2005, 11:18 AM
#10
any B-series owns any D-series....stock for stock....any day.
If you really wanna play with the big boys put in a gsr or itr. b18c5 with bolt ons will be more than sufficient for an EF.
If you really wanna play with the big boys put in a gsr or itr. b18c5 with bolt ons will be more than sufficient for an EF.
23-Aug-2005, 02:48 PM
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Oh god yes. There is no comparison speed wise. As long as the B16 is going into a hatch you can buck any stock NA 4cyl out there. Think about it. You'll be faster than any RSX,Integra, Prelude,SE-R. You'll even be able to hang with GTP's,Some Beemer's and Benz's, Audi's,VW 1.8t's and VR6's almost EVERYTHING. and even some plain assed 5.0litre's.You'll be faster than 80% of the car's on the road.
The only thing's faster are $40,000+ luxury car's,Done up V8's and the CobaltSS and SRT-4 which are both around $30,000.
Join the Club and get some real speed. Spend the extra money, If you love driving you won't regret it. With a ZC you won't be any faster than plain integra's and other car's with bolt on's.
Not true. I think he hasn't driven nice cars before haha. A B16 isn't that fast.
The only thing's faster are $40,000+ luxury car's,Done up V8's and the CobaltSS and SRT-4 which are both around $30,000.
Join the Club and get some real speed. Spend the extra money, If you love driving you won't regret it. With a ZC you won't be any faster than plain integra's and other car's with bolt on's.
Not true. I think he hasn't driven nice cars before haha. A B16 isn't that fast.
24-Aug-2005, 10:22 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
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Originally posted by winner007
Oh god yes. There is no comparison speed wise. As long as the B16 is going into a hatch you can buck any stock NA 4cyl out there. Think about it. You'll be faster than any RSX,Integra, Prelude,SE-R. You'll even be able to hang with GTP's,Some Beemer's and Benz's, Audi's,VW 1.8t's and VR6's almost EVERYTHING. and even some plain assed 5.0litre's.You'll be faster than 80% of the car's on the road.
The only thing's faster are $40,000+ luxury car's,Done up V8's and the CobaltSS and SRT-4 which are both around $30,000.
Join the Club and get some real speed. Spend the extra money, If you love driving you won't regret it. With a ZC you won't be any faster than plain integra's and other car's with bolt on's.
Not true. I think he hasn't driven nice cars before haha. A B16 isn't that fast.
Oh god yes. There is no comparison speed wise. As long as the B16 is going into a hatch you can buck any stock NA 4cyl out there. Think about it. You'll be faster than any RSX,Integra, Prelude,SE-R. You'll even be able to hang with GTP's,Some Beemer's and Benz's, Audi's,VW 1.8t's and VR6's almost EVERYTHING. and even some plain assed 5.0litre's.You'll be faster than 80% of the car's on the road.
The only thing's faster are $40,000+ luxury car's,Done up V8's and the CobaltSS and SRT-4 which are both around $30,000.
Join the Club and get some real speed. Spend the extra money, If you love driving you won't regret it. With a ZC you won't be any faster than plain integra's and other car's with bolt on's.
Not true. I think he hasn't driven nice cars before haha. A B16 isn't that fast.
EF's own
24-Aug-2005, 08:28 PM
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im bulding a b16a EF cuz i know how much potential this car has! thats why im doing this swap my coupe is slow i used to be fast now i want to be fast again and i know im in a step in the right direction
personally i wouldnt fvck with the ZC its to old and just for the money b16 is the way to go .. BEST BANG FOR YOUR BUCK
personally i wouldnt fvck with the ZC its to old and just for the money b16 is the way to go .. BEST BANG FOR YOUR BUCK
24-Aug-2005, 10:42 PM
#17
personally i would say a very simple, mild compression b20vtec setup in an EF owns...all oe parts for reliability.
Simple swap too b/c you can use a 1st gen b16 head which is obd-0 and a chipped pr3 ecu, b16 cable tranny and maybe some ITR cams.
My buddy had the same b20vtec setup in his EF, unfortunately he spun a rod bearing and just put a b16 back in, car seems sooo slow now though w/just a b16....not hating on b16s b/c i have one in my car....just saying with how much torque the b20 has it moves those light hatches real good, even if it was just a b20 w/b16 tranny, which would be a little more work b/c b20's are obd-2 and EF's are obd-0, thats what's so nice about the b20vtec in EF's....simple, but fast.
Simple swap too b/c you can use a 1st gen b16 head which is obd-0 and a chipped pr3 ecu, b16 cable tranny and maybe some ITR cams.
My buddy had the same b20vtec setup in his EF, unfortunately he spun a rod bearing and just put a b16 back in, car seems sooo slow now though w/just a b16....not hating on b16s b/c i have one in my car....just saying with how much torque the b20 has it moves those light hatches real good, even if it was just a b20 w/b16 tranny, which would be a little more work b/c b20's are obd-2 and EF's are obd-0, thats what's so nice about the b20vtec in EF's....simple, but fast.
25-Aug-2005, 12:11 AM
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Originally posted by dubz01si
im bulding a b16a EF cuz i know how much potential this car has! thats why im doing this swap my coupe is slow i used to be fast now i want to be fast again and i know im in a step in the right direction
personally i wouldnt fvck with the ZC its to old and just for the money b16 is the way to go .. BEST BANG FOR YOUR BUCK
im bulding a b16a EF cuz i know how much potential this car has! thats why im doing this swap my coupe is slow i used to be fast now i want to be fast again and i know im in a step in the right direction
personally i wouldnt fvck with the ZC its to old and just for the money b16 is the way to go .. BEST BANG FOR YOUR BUCK
Oh and btw no stock b16 ef is going to be keeping up with any modern corvette any day, a stock C5 runs I believe somewhere in the mid 13's and the C6 is even faster stock.
25-Aug-2005, 01:19 AM
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Originally posted by Thrill_House
Actually the best bang for you buck IMO is a B18a1 with a B16 head on it, you still get decent top end and alot better low end pull then the b16. Also B18A1's can be had for nothing because they came in like 85 percent of integra's. Also the stock internals of the B18A1 will handle a ton of power should you go that route. Dont get my wrong a b16 is still a great motor but certianly not as good as everyone hypes it up to be, id put my non V-TEC B18 EF hatch up against any B16A1 EF any day.
Oh and btw no stock b16 ef is going to be keeping up with any modern corvette any day, a stock C5 runs I believe somewhere in the mid 13's and the C6 is even faster stock.
Actually the best bang for you buck IMO is a B18a1 with a B16 head on it, you still get decent top end and alot better low end pull then the b16. Also B18A1's can be had for nothing because they came in like 85 percent of integra's. Also the stock internals of the B18A1 will handle a ton of power should you go that route. Dont get my wrong a b16 is still a great motor but certianly not as good as everyone hypes it up to be, id put my non V-TEC B18 EF hatch up against any B16A1 EF any day.
Oh and btw no stock b16 ef is going to be keeping up with any modern corvette any day, a stock C5 runs I believe somewhere in the mid 13's and the C6 is even faster stock.
I also like the b16 tranny b20 (no vtec) setup. nice stoplight to stoplight car as well as circuit racer
I really dont know about this statement!
"You'll be faster than any RSX,Integra, Prelude,SE-R. You'll even be able to hang with GTP's,Some Beemer's and Benz's, Audi's,VW 1.8t's and VR6's almost EVERYTHING. and even some plain assed 5.0litre's.You'll be faster than 80% of the car's on the road."
Are you talkin off the line? quarter mile?
b16 in an ef vs lets say.... a Type R or GSR for that matter? stock?
Id like to see either dynos, video timeslips to back that statement up.
