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Old 30-Jul-2006, 11:09 PM
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question about intakes

i dunno if tis is the place to post tis question , my bad

im planning to get intake soon for my EK, i jus wanted some opinions and some pros and cons for the types tat r out in the market...
first, brand? AEM or Injen?
2nd, short ram or cold air
b/c i heard tere are gds and bads for both, as in short ram is not as gd as cold air in performance wise..or cold air is not gd for canadian winters..etc etc

plz help me out, and post some suggestions, thnx guys
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Old 31-Jul-2006, 01:14 AM
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Neither one do much noticable difference. CAI have a chance to bring in water and crap you don't want while SRI bring in slightly warmer air without the chance of stuff getting in the system. It really doesn't do any noticable difference performance wise and it just gives a deeper sound when you pin it.

And they're both terribly overpriced.

If I had to chose, I'd go SRI all day.
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Old 31-Jul-2006, 01:46 AM
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A pipe with a filter on the end. They all do the same thing. Make more noise then power.
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Not true i belive there is a post kicking about with dyno graphs after a k20 had a CAI slapped on and made 15hp gain on the dyno.

It all depends on what motor your bolting it on too and what/or if any tuning is done.
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Old 31-Jul-2006, 09:37 AM
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K series engine will yield the greatest gains off of simple boltons. As far as the D and B series go, just get any cheap ebay brand short ram and then buy a K&N filter.

Short Ram = low end power loss, higher end gain
Cold Air = low end power gain.

DumbasSi is right, just a simple pipe with a filter on the end.
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Old 31-Jul-2006, 11:36 AM
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alrite i get the idea of not too much performance is shown from the 2
then wat would be suggested for me if i wanted to get one
would CAI be bad for the winters as Simich say?
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Old 31-Jul-2006, 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by B18C5er
Short Ram = low end power loss, higher end gain
Cold Air = low end power gain.
I believe its the other way around
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Old 31-Jul-2006, 12:40 PM
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hahahha~
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Old 31-Jul-2006, 02:23 PM
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try to get one with a washable filter.
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Old 31-Jul-2006, 05:09 PM
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whaa what engine is that???

i had an aem cai (mike took it off my hands several years ago) and definitely enjoyed gunning it in tunnels and 'showing it off'...

i also had a short ram for a few months. the sound was different: louder but not as 'clean'. for example, in the range between 7000-7200rpm the engine sounded like it was about to explode

I also preferred the 'look' of the CAI vs. the SRI i.e. it is more 'picturesque'

not sure about the brands you listed but you can search around and read about the different types of filters thet come with each....


having said that, I'm looking around for a generic cold air these days. probably the weapon-r.
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I personally hate aftermarket intakes on D16Y7s... Ive owned a 96 EK hb int he past and installed an AEM SRI. All intakes will produce a squealing noise at some part of the acceleration... some make a quick noise for about a second if that. When I had my hb the AEM SRI would squeal for sooo long under moderate acceleration... you would have to adjust your pressure on the gas for it to go away... I was told by AEM reps that the noise is worse on the Y7s because of the intake manifold and "butterfly" on the Throttle body... eventually the noise pissed me off enough where I went to just a K&N drop in filter. Honestly I didnt even notice a difference between the two.

If you think about it SRIs are kinda stupid. Sure you may be sucking in way more air with it, but in most fitment cases, the air is all coming from directly beside you engine!... So basically you are sucking in sh*t loads of extremely hot air... which you dont want... the amount of air gives you a little bit of a performance gain but on the whole its not worth it.

Simply put either just use a drop in filter or get an AEM V2, which is by far the best CAI on the market!





Oh and Js racing CF whale ***** INTAKES are the **** (as far as noise and looks go)....




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I ended up using a K&N drop in, I removed the resonator and I replaced the stock arm with a 3"ITR arm. It was the safest and most reliable IMO.

I did love the sound of the CAI though.
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Originally posted by illmatic_si
whaa what engine is that???
H4 engine.

what you can do is to by-pass the coolant to the throttle body. but make sure you re-connect them in late fall.
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Originally posted by DumbasSi
I replaced the stock arm with a 3"ITR arm.
nice!!! how did you get the 3" arm on the throttle body? rubber coupling?? answer here pls!
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answered. i used the stainless clamps. i forget what they are called.
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Originally posted by geoch_09

If you think about it SRIs are kinda stupid. Sure you may be sucking in way more air with it, but in most fitment cases, the air is all coming from directly beside you engine!... So basically you are sucking in sh*t loads of extremely hot air... which you dont want... the amount of air gives you a little bit of a performance gain but on the whole its not worth it.
Actually, after testing, the air flowing through the engine bay whily moving is only slightly warmer than the air outside the car. While at higher speeds, the air is almost identical in temperature to the air outside the car.

Also, the stock intake draws it's air from within the bay as well. FYI. It only draws air in from one half of the filter mostly. Seeing as how the other half of the filter is encompassed by the airbox, it restricts the flow to that half to a minimum.
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