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bbarbulo 24-Jan-2007 03:44 PM


Originally posted by italstallion
when doing the master cylinder upgrade should i go for 15/16 or 1 inch
with your tiny calipers and drums in the rear I suspect, 15/16 is more than enough, and plenty easy to find. 1 inch is near impossible to find... and would be overkill. i use a 1 inch for large 4 piston calipers, so unless you're pretty sure you wanna upgrade later to four piston calipers, 15/16 is as much as you'll ever need.

imported_stealth512 26-Jan-2007 11:59 PM


Originally posted by italstallion
yeah i spoke to mark at break the needle but he cant get me brembo blanks...
The last time I needed rotors I called NAPA and they had brembo blanks.

imported_mikepasini 27-Jan-2007 11:31 AM

why does everyone buy brembo blanks??? lol...

whats kind of brakes do you have on your civic?

brembos dude... im a balla...

***********secretly... they are just brembo rotors which somehow i believe brakes can grab better onto brembo metal than honda metal.

unless they are cross-drilled (if you want them to brake in half on you) or you get slotted (looks gay when ppl buy stock size calipers on there car that are slotted... hahaha, like a neon with slotted rotors... wow) then there is not much more function.

imported_stealth512 27-Jan-2007 02:07 PM


Originally posted by mikepasini
why does everyone buy brembo blanks??? lol...

whats kind of brakes do you have on your civic?

brembos dude... im a balla...

***********secretly... they are just brembo rotors which somehow i believe brakes can grab better onto brembo metal than honda metal.

unless they are cross-drilled (if you want them to brake in half on you) or you get slotted (looks gay when ppl buy stock size calipers on there car that are slotted... hahaha, like a neon with slotted rotors... wow) then there is not much more function.

Hmm..not exactly. The reason is people want brembo rotor isn't because they are balla or at least I hope that's not the reason.

It's because the brembo rotors can deal with the heat better than cheap rotors. Less warping better design between the rotors ect. Now this only becomes useful if your hard on the brakes and using a pad that going to heat up them up. Otherwise cheap rotors are fine.

imported_mikepasini 27-Jan-2007 05:55 PM

yeah, thats my point... they last longeer but they dont dramatically increase your stopping power at all... so i just dont know why ppl call it an upgrade... its nowhere close... just replacingg a ****ty part with a better quality one.

chris_si98 27-Jan-2007 06:14 PM


Originally posted by mikepasini
just replacingg a ****ty part with a better quality one.

now, wouldn't that be an upgrade?

zeeman 27-Jan-2007 08:20 PM

thats an upgrade to me

imported_mikepasini 28-Jan-2007 07:34 AM

****ing tecnhincal bull****... lol. you guys win...

but i think its a waste of money IMO... and well, thats where it ends... i just say my opinion.

i just dont understand why ppl are so against doing gsr fronts or type-r fronts and of the course the rear conversion. its a much more economical upgrade...

imported_JDMWHACKO 28-Jan-2007 10:48 AM

Ummm what makes the GSR fronts any better than say a GS or LS front... They have the same size rotor... same size pad...

here check it out before you waste money

http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1513752


just tired of hearing the wrong **** being tossed around...

SIR GSR GS LS RS SI EX THEY ALL HAVE THE SAME FRONT BRAKES

with that being said the Type R is different i dont think i need to say why.....


all rear disc are interchangable... 88-00 Civic and 94-01 integra can be swapped....and no you dont need the rear trailing arms... just the spindle!!!

changing M/C why would you? pay $$$ to have your pedal closer to the top of the pedal travel....all your doing is moving more fluid at once just dont be lazy and PUT YOUR FOOT INTO HER.... doesnt do much unless you have 4 piston brake calipers or a BIG aftermarket setup like Wilwood... <---nice brakes


I dont see how you can be fading brakes out even with something turbo charged (^got stock brakes on my boosted gsr)... its not the brakes dude its your driving style...
if your brakes are fading fast and you go out and get more aggressive pads and not vented rotors? can you say warped rotors?

you need to get bigger cross drilled rotors....bigger calipers and a nice pad.... hawks are rotor eaters but they do grab like crazy and squeek too


my .02's

imported_mikepasini 28-Jan-2007 02:35 PM

i never said gsr are better than gs or ls... those are integra brakes as well made to stop a heavier car... if you have ever looked at gsr fronts and sir front side by side... the gsrs are a little bigger... i dunno, i have seen them with my own eyes... have you?

imported_italstallion 28-Jan-2007 08:57 PM

well those are good points jdmwhacko but it cant be my driving style im just slowing down fro like 180-190 they dont fade if i hold the brakes down for like ten seconds then reapply the brakes but my brakes were gonzo already so it doesnt matter.what fluid should i be using just regualr dot 3 or should i go with a dot 4??? also do i really need the c-clamp to press the piston back in from the caliper or can i use something else....

zeeman 28-Jan-2007 08:58 PM

you could prolly use something else, if you're creative.
I find a c-clamp works best though.

imported_italstallion 28-Jan-2007 09:28 PM

and as far as bleeding them its the same thing as bleeding the clutch never let the fluid get empty just do RR-RL-FR-FL or RR-FL-RL-FR like in the manual or does it even really matter...

chris_si98 28-Jan-2007 10:32 PM

c clamps suck

use channel locks

imported_JDMWHACKO 07-Mar-2007 03:40 PM

yea... big channel locks work well.... if your not weak

save yourself the surprise and loosen your brake res, it's gonna piss the fluid out as soon as you push the pistons back

GSR brakes = SIR brakes

SIR has a different compensator arm and UCA and LCA. Even the trailing arms are the same....

imported_ontariorider 07-Mar-2007 04:00 PM

i would go with integra breaks or even itr 4x114

zeeman 07-Mar-2007 09:34 PM


Originally posted by chris_si98
c clamps suck

use channel locks

ya, channel locks work nice too, but for the longest time i never had any....lol.

I always thought the SI/EX had the same size brakes as the LS/GS/GSR/SIR.

imported_JDMWHACKO 07-Mar-2007 10:00 PM

your right zeeman

I think Mike is smokin too much of da pot

DumbasSi 07-Mar-2007 10:44 PM

Stock rotors or Brembo blanks with better pads, fluid and S/S lines are more then enough for a daily driver or the occassional day at the track.

A brake conversion might seem like a great idea, but bigger rotors and calipers also mean more unsprung weight.

bbarbulo 08-Mar-2007 12:49 PM


Originally posted by italstallion
well those are good points jdmwhacko but it cant be my driving style im just slowing down fro like 180-190 they dont fade if i hold the brakes down for like ten seconds then reapply the brakes but my brakes were gonzo already so it doesnt matter.what fluid should i be using just regualr dot 3 or should i go with a dot 4??? also do i really need the c-clamp to press the piston back in from the caliper or can i use something else....
use your hands you girly man :)

also, use dot 3 fluid, it's fine.


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