imported_meSIR

In terms of flow, which would flow better? My guess is that crush bent would flow better because the loss in diameter at the bends is probably around 2.25? so it would flow little better relative to the 2.5', if so,large difference?
Answers/input should be based on the assumption that I will have the setup that requires between 2.25-2.5 piping. Also, my collector would be 2.5', as well the cat, but the option remains between 2.25 mandrel or 2.5 crush.

Nova_Dust

Exhaust flow is measured at the narrowest passage, so if the crush bend diameter and the mandrel bend diameter are the same, then there will not be much of a difference.

imported_meSIR

charles, I knew i could rely on you for exhaust tips,lol.
Any idea of what the diameter is of the bends of 2.5' crush bends?

imported_meSIR

edited for double post.

spazio10

doesnt mandrel bending keep the diameter the same throughout.
isn't that the purpose of mandrel bending???

imported_hdave

^ yes it does

theres lots of arguments about crush vs mandrel but its been proven that mandrel is a waste of money for most people

RDub99

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why not 2.5" mandrel?

imported_meSIR

Rob, the only thing really holding me back from that is $.

spazio10

mandrel is expensive anjd it can only be done with certain metals

imported_kIeRaN

go to an exhaust shop and ask em if u can measure some of there 2.5 inch crushbends

imported_Nanase

you won't notice the different if the engine are not force induction. I will say mandrel bend will be better then the crush bend (smoother flow)

chris_si98

what if its a high compression motor?

you would notice it.

imported_Nanase

what consider as high compression motor? is it anything above 10:1?

Nova_Dust

Taken from a website:

All of this has been specific to mandrel bent pipe. Squeeze bent pipe looses 1/3 of its interior cross sectional area in a right angle bend. There are three right angle bends in the exhaust system of both the Storm and the I-Mark.
Mandrel pipe bending keeps a consistent inside diameter of the pipe through right angle and even U bends.
2 1/2 inch diameter squeeze bent pipe will flow the equivalent of 1.6 inch diameter pipe at each of those squeeze bends. The entire exhaust system will flow only as much as the tightest constriction in flow, meaning that all of the 2 1/2 inch pipe has been a waste, the total system will flow the same as a 1.6 inch diameter mandrel bent exhaust system.
To build a 2 1/2 inch diameter system using squeeze bent pipe, every bend would have to be made using 3 1/2 inch diameter pipe to compensate for the inside space lost from the squeeze bend. This means that the straight sections of pipe would be 2 1/2 inch pipe, then expanded to 3 1/2 inch bends for each and every curve, and then turned back down to 2 1/2 inch pipe for the straight pipe until the next bend.

imported_mikepasini

2.25 would be good IMO if you want something that works... but 2.5" would flow much better.. you may lose a little power down low, but up top... there is a noticeable difference from what i've seen before.

B18C5er

I have 2.5" mandrel. It's a bit more expensive but worth it in the long run if you plan on going mod happy. Do it once and do it right.....


as for the 2.5", ya, you notice a little low end power loss, but at a certain point in mid powerband, the car picks up nicer.

imported_mikepasini

i am running 2.5" mandrel bent straight pipe with a test pipe on my b18c1... you lose the low end, but when you watch that speedo sail 70km/hr....80..90.100... it makes a big difference in my experience.

imported_meSIR

that is gold Charles