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Old 08-Aug-2008, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 99CivicSiR
Actually, youre only putting in 24 Litres, youre not filling up all the way.
yea...my math was all reversi
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Old 19-Aug-2008, 10:16 AM
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Disregard!!!! Lol

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Old 19-Aug-2008, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by kamandor
I've noticed that I can often pump another 6 to 10 litres after the pump 'stops' for the first time. I then have to rapidly pump the gas to keep it flowing after the first 'stop', due to the pressure sensors on the pump nozzle.

This 'trick' can be annoying but it is worth it. If you do this, the result is that the top half of the tank seems to give you much better mileage than the bottom half. You will get a much better picture of your actual mileage if you do this, as you will actually 'fill' your tank. I've averaging 700km+ on a 50L tank, with about a 50/50 mix of city/highway driving. I drive very relaxed, do not use A/C unless it's boiling outside, and accelerate mildly - anything to reduce consumption. Lately I've been using premium, which I find gives me even better mileage and better passing power on the highway.

The other day I pumped an extra 9.5 litres after the pump first stopped. Give it a try, but make sure to watch your nozzle so that you don't overpump and spill gas (and waste your money).
I would actually recommend NOT doing this. The reason why you can pump more gas than what is in the tank is partially because gas can be 'stored' up the filler neck however, there is a vent line that goes to the evaporative emissions (EVAP system) equipment and cannister. You may be lucky by not getting in any raw (liquid) fuel in the EVAP system but it isn't designed for raw fuel. It is designed for fuel vapours (gas) and air. There is danger of flooding the cannister, poisoning it with the raw fuel and making it useless. To fix this, you will have to replace your cannister and other components that may be damaged. I don't think it is worth trying to fill your car as much as it will go for the costs associated with replacing the cannister. Of course, it is your car and you can do as you please.

So, my recommendation is NOT to over fill your tank.
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Old 19-Aug-2008, 09:05 PM
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^ I agree. Gas expands and the reason the pump automatically stops filling up is to give your tank that extra room for the vapours and the expansion/contraction in the gas tank during changes in temperature.
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Old 19-Aug-2008, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by spike
You can put a header onto it, that will give you a little bit more fuel economy.

Honestly.. I've never seen one man post so much bull**** in my life.. Where do you come up with this ****?
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Old 19-Aug-2008, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by kamandor
I've noticed that I can often pump another 6 to 10 litres after the pump 'stops' for the first time. I then have to rapidly pump the gas to keep it flowing after the first 'stop', due to the pressure sensors on the pump nozzle.

This 'trick' can be annoying but it is worth it. If you do this, the result is that the top half of the tank seems to give you much better mileage than the bottom half. You will get a much better picture of your actual mileage if you do this, as you will actually 'fill' your tank. I've averaging 700km+ on a 50L tank, with about a 50/50 mix of city/highway driving. I drive very relaxed, do not use A/C unless it's boiling outside, and accelerate mildly - anything to reduce consumption. Lately I've been using premium, which I find gives me even better mileage and better passing power on the highway.

The other day I pumped an extra 9.5 litres after the pump first stopped. Give it a try, but make sure to watch your nozzle so that you don't overpump and spill gas (and waste your money).
By doing this you are actually putting fuel in your charcoal canister which is being vented out.

Good way to waste fuel and prematurely damage evap. components.
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Old 19-Aug-2008, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by civicEJ1
i get about 400-450 city driving i never hit 500 but most of my driving is city but if ur putting 30 bucks in and ur getting 450 u hsould be smiling plus i always hit vtec i juss love the accleration of first gear so i burn a lot of gas but w/e

tune up ur car and put the fuel injector cleaner in ur gas tank the next time u fill up all the way dont just stop at 30 bucks it costs me 45 -50 bucks to fill my tank and thats only if i hit like EMPTY the red line empty
but i noticed a big difference when i put the fuel injector cleaner in
Fuel injector cleaner? Dumping that weak *** concentration of fuel cleaner into your gas tank is like pissing in a pool. Honda doesn't even recommend any type of fuel addictives for the fuel system. If you really want to do a fuel system clean, do a motor-vac.
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Old 19-Aug-2008, 09:31 PM
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And to the O/P if you are near oakville. swing by my area.. and I'll check your car over. If you need a tune-up, ignition timing.. stuff like that. But it sounds like you should fill your tank up all the way.. then tell us how much you get per tank.
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Old 20-Aug-2008, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by chris_v2
By doing this you are actually putting fuel in your charcoal canister which is being vented out.

Good way to waste fuel and prematurely damage evap. components.

I had no idea!!! Ahh thank you guys for alerting me to this, I will definitely stop. I'm glad I checked this post because I need to fill up my car tonight.

Wow... I'm glad I've only ever 'over-filled' my tank 3 or 4 times, otherwise I would really be mad at myself if I had been doing this for years.

I cannot believe I didn't know this... seriously thank you guys for pointing out this STUPID move on my part.
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Old 20-Aug-2008, 02:04 PM
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care to elaborate on this?


Originally Posted by chris_v2
By doing this you are actually putting fuel in your charcoal canister which is being vented out.

Good way to waste fuel and prematurely damage evap. components.
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Old 20-Aug-2008, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by driven905
care to elaborate on this?
Sure.

Your fuel tank vapours are drawn out of your tank to a canister (it may be different on certain cars/models, but I'm just explaining a simple system)

There are a few soleniods that control this flow of fuel vapours. By overfilling your tank, the fuel must go somewhere, right? So guess where it goes? Past the soleniods which aren't meant to be submerged in fuel and into your charcoal canister. Under extreme situations.. it may even be drip fuel out of the vent valve. But I've never seen anybody be that stupid and overfill it that much
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Old 20-Aug-2008, 05:53 PM
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you know how many vent valve solenoids I sell a week? hahaha atleast 10! all cuz people overfill their tanks too damn often...I fill it to the brim when I'm headed out on a long trip but regular fill ups are to when it stops and then rounded up to the dollar
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Old 20-Aug-2008, 07:03 PM
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hey i get about 700-800km per 50L tank. no one mentioned that how you drive is a key factor, if you start fast and stop fast, how much you idle, i do about 95% highway driving. if you are on the highway a lot and can use cruise control try that, also, look at the tire pressure, if you want to reduce pressure fluctuation use nitrogen to fill them. also look at your air filter and fule filter they arent too expensive to replace and are considered routine maintenance to good fuel economy.
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Old 20-Aug-2008, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Cynikal.Mindset
you know how many vent valve solenoids I sell a week? hahaha atleast 10! all cuz people overfill their tanks too damn often...I fill it to the brim when I'm headed out on a long trip but regular fill ups are to when it stops and then rounded up to the dollar
Yeah man.. I'm sure you used to sell a lot (or do you still work at a parts place?)

They're common on pretty much every make vehicle.
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Old 20-Aug-2008, 09:08 PM
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i work at a dealership now in parts and pretty much every make and model sold I've sold vent valve solenoids and canisters
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