snows

hey guys, i need some advise from experience people.

ok , i'm planning to either put turbo on my stock civic'97 or swapping with a built (LS) or stock B/H Series engine

The questions are:
1) can you do emission test with such upgrades(turbo)/ swap?

2) i heard if you do swap, the swap engine need to be newer year than my '97 stocks engine, and also need some paper. is this true?
is the paper means from usdm engine or jdm ?

3) if happen i'm selling the car in the future, can i pass the safety check?

4) how about insurance issue?


Thanks a million guys.

EL_Sport

Not sure about your motor swap questions, but as for turbo, most turbo kits out there are CARB (California Air Resources Board) legal, meaning they should pass emissions no problem.

snows

what do you mean by CARB, do you mean you have to buy the complete kit to be legal. or you can have a home made turbo set up?

imported_Joker

1) Yes you should be able to pass emissions same reason as EL_ Sport

2) Not sure

3) Safety check doesn't really check all parts of ther car only lights, brakes, tires, and such not issues regarding where engine came from etc...

4)Insurance will cover you for it if it is legal and you tell them about it, but if you tell them about it be prepared to pay more thatn you are paying now.

Joker

snows

anybody done engine swap????

please help me with the legal issue.

i'm planning to start my summer project soon. So i can decide which route i will go to, and start collecting parts.

imported_94EG6HB

As long as you swap in a higher HP motor you should tell your insurance company..

If you get into an accident with the swapped motor insurance has a right to refuse your claim because you did not inform them of the swap..

Rules are different for different insurer's..

Call your insurance company..

Pretend to be someone else..

Start playing "What if" with the agent.

snows

thanks for you advise guys.

anymore advice please.

EL_Sport

What I mean is that alot of the complete turbo/sc kits out there are CARB legal (emissions legal in California). Kits such as Greddy, Jackson Racing, etc. California has some of the strictest emissions laws in N. America, so if the kit is legal there, you should have no problems with emissions testing here in Ontario.

snows

coupe95

Answer to your #2 is NO. The engine does not have to be newer or same year as your car that's an old wives tale and if the car is JDM then there are no "papers" you only get a reciept from whereever or whomever you bought it from.

PiNk

so is it illegal to swap engines??

imported_gatherer

nope it's not illegal

PiNk

icic.... thanks!

i'm safe now... :P

TEKX

You had a swap?

94turbolx

so if someone got a stolen motor and had a friend from a shop right up a receipt..your good to go?

imported_gatherer

not really because if a cop looks up the serial numbers and it's stolen then they might take the block and investigate the shop as well (although you can say with the reciept I didn't know

TEKX

But you got to notify the insurance and give them identification and your screwed...

If a cop catches you

It goes

Victim
"My shop did it for me..."

Shop
"My Supplier got it for me"

Supplier
"My warehouse sent out a batch"

... etc

coupe95

I'm sure someone can shed some more light on this and I wouldn't recommend ANYONE using a stolen motor but from what I understand if the motor is a JDM motor there is NO WAY to track whether it's stolen or not.

I don't think they are gonna call Japan and ask if so and so motor is stolen.

blk93si

Not worth having a stolen motor , cops have been doing spot checks and looking under hood for vin## etc. , then i see cars being towed away- seized -

Also a JDM motor comes with a vin , and yes you can check them