jeev155

I received 10 tickets in a span of 10 days by the same cop (2 occasions)

2x for dark tints (i have legal limit, he says book a court date after the first ticket and prove you reduced the darkness and i'll throw the ticket out - but he goes ahead and gives me another ticket 10 days later).
2x for 15 km/h over speed limit (both times i was over by 15, fine - this ticket i respect).
2x for improper muffler (i have a catback)
2x for excessive noise from muffler
1x for forgetting insurance card (this is on the second occasion where the cop obviously saw my insurance card on the first occasion)
1x for forgetting driver's license.

The muffler/tints - he said he'll give me until the court date to fix the issue but goes ahead and gives me another ticket within 10 days.

I have booked court dates for all of these tickets and intent to fight back. Any tips?

PS - I honestly feel like I am being targeted.

spike

Well the muffler ones you can get drop and the legal limit is 98 DP or so, and he would need to have a DP reader on site to prove you are louder then the legal limit. Just fight them all, but you will most likely will end up paying for some. like the forgetting the license and insurance slip and the slip should be in the vehicle at all times.

PS - Stop speeding and you will not get the tickets for them.

k_r_a_c_k_e_r

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Damn, somebodys got it out for you.. lol

RadEp3

pigs...they have nothing to do....

bengali548

ARGH cops and their effing quotas >

dude dont worry you got good reasoning for all of those tickets just stay cool explain your story and shut the cop up at court

F8i

iTrader: (10)

for the record a decibel(dB)... The first appearance will throw out a lot of your tickets.
1x Failure to show insurance card: go to your insurance company, and tell them what happened. They should, or you should request, a nice letter about how long you've been a client. If it was an expired card, like me. the insurance company didn't send me a card, so they gave me a nice letter, and my ticket was thrown out.

Tints: fight it... Take a picture of yourself in the same conditions (night/day) that the cop pulled you over and ticketed you for. Don't wear a white shirt, or anything else to make it obviouse you're trying to fudge the ticket. If you truely think the ticket is unfair, the first appearance will most likely side in your favour, not to waste the crowns time.

Speeding: Radar is inacurrate. Weather can also change the outcome of a reading (I Think). If there were no other vehicles around you, and it was a speed trap or similiar, the officer could've been infrindging your freedoms. Along the lines of your right not to be illegally searched, being electronically monitored.

Noise: Were there any complaints? Did the officer have a dB reader? If not... then I doubt you were that loud.

Improper Muffler: Eat a Dick. I hate that ****. Say you bought it from Canadian Tire, or it was recommended from your dealer/WalMart or something else low budget to make you sound like a know nothing about cars. Explain it's Catalic convertor is there. I got pulled over and I'm resinated, Cat., Skunk2 Muffler w/ Silencer, all 2 1/2" exhaust. No ticket, just a stern warning.

Hope it helps for what it's worth. Be respectable. you might be a target, but do as little as you can to single yourself out. The cop probably thinks you're trying to show alfa male, cop is probably suffering from small man syndrome. Stay fly, wave submissivly... Heh, I bet e gave you the speech about your insurance card," You know I could impound your vehicle right now" lol... Good Luck!
-B

FiveO

Transport Canada requires new passenger cars to emit less than 80 db total noise emissions when measured 15 meters from the vehicle.

The HTA does not specify an upper db limit. The standard a cop uses when laying HTA charges for improper muffler or unnecessary noise is what is considered reasonable when all circumstances are taken into account. What is acceptable on a 400 series highway at high noon may not be acceptable in a residential neighbourhood at 3:00am.

If the OP got charged for improper muffler, the cop probably decided that the muffler was not controlling exhaust noise to an acceptable degree, and hence is an improper muffler. Anything louder than OEM can open you up such charges.

Unnecessary noise tickets can be issued if a cop believes that you are creating more noise than is reasonable for the ordinary operation of your vehicle - example, the "look-at-me" fools who drive around in low gears with the motor at high revs so we can all hear how "cool" their cat-backs sound. You can also get unnecessary noise tickets for having your stereo on too loud. You can even get unnecessary noise tickets with completely stock OEM exhaust systems if you're being a total dick and making more noise than is necessary to move your vehicle down the street.

Nether requires a cop to provide "proof" in the form of a db reading. The cop only needs demonstrate that in his opionion, the noise was unreasonable or unnecessary.

FiveO

You're contradicting yourself on the tints. You say that the cop said he'll toss the ticket come court time if you fix the too-dark tints. That is not the same as the cop saying "go ahead and drive the car with the tints as is until that court date".

By continuing to drive the car as is, you've basically just thumbed your nose at the cop. The car is still illegal in the cop's eyes, so you got another ticker. Have you fixed the tints yet, or are you going to see if you can get yet another ticket for tints?

By the way, there is no set standard for windshield and front-side window tints. The simple measure is, can a cop look inside the car at night or day, and be able to clearly see the occupants inside? If not, it's too dark.


Yup, you probably are being targeted. Now be honest and ask yourself why. Too-dark tints, too-loud car, speeding.... and all on multiple occasions? Seems like you make a habit of drawing attention to yourself through your driving, and as such would make an ideal target for a ticket or several.

FiveO

Typo - emit NO MORE than 80 db.

Again, this standard applies to new cars manufactured for sale in Canada, and even operating a vehicle at or below this standard could still result in unnecessary noise charges under the HTA if the cop feels there is no need for the noise being emitted.

Xscorpio

wow this is unreal, at first it hought it was those email joke things haha....

but yea man, most of will get thrown out, but you will still have to pay some.

to my understanding:

if legal it will be dropped - 2x for dark tints (i have legal limit, he says book a court date after the first ticket and prove you reduced the darkness and i'll throw the ticket out - but he goes ahead and gives me another ticket 10 days later).

you can get this reduced, if you talk to the prosecutor before the court - 2x for 15 km/h over speed limit (both times i was over by 15, fine - this ticket i respect).

if you put stock muffler back on, take pictures of it while they are putting it back on and after, take pics to the court, show your receipt of all the work, it will be dropped (well in my case they did) - 2x for improper muffler (i have a catback)

you might not be able to get these dropped, even if he doesnt have the db meter on you, all he has to say that he was on radio and he couldnt hear anything when you drove by. (which makes it excessive loud ~ thats what cop said in my case, but it got dropped when they saw i have replaced my muffler back to stock) 2x for excessive noise from muffler

take your insurance papers with you, it will get dropped - 1x for forgetting insurance card (this is on the second occasion where the cop obviously saw my insurance card on the first occasion)

take your license with you it will get dropped - 1x for forgetting driver's license.

PS: if you dont mind me asking how old are you? and when you speed you attract attention, and when modified and get cops attention thats always a bad thing

civicEJ1

iTrader: (2)

i read the title to the thread and thought itd be sirux

Xscorpio

^lol that thought also ran through my mind haha

TORRES

maybe you should just learn how to drive properly

lom109

Gotta agree with him...

Trybal

Hrmmm....

- solve the problem

- learn something new in life.

PS: Only couples with kids have tints.