imported_cbishun

hope this is the right forum for this but.....

I was just wondering what you think on this matter. Lets say you buy some speakers from a shop and you pay them to hook it up to your amp and the speakers blow whose fault is it? Do you think the shop should be responsible or should it be the user?

imported_Team Rukus

your fault.
you need to research if they are good speakers or not.
secondly they arent responsible for how loud you play them or not and how you used them in order for it to blow.

now if they blew the second day of purchase then it could be a manufacteurer defect in that case take it back for warranty if applicable.

BBProductions

bbarbulo

iTrader: (2)

yeah, I mean all the shop can do is make sure the polarity is ok and the speakers won't rattle themselves out of their mount. as for tuning the system and setting amp gains, I think you have to do it yourself, or PAY them extra to do that.

BBProductions

well evey shop will have installation warranty if something happends shortly after? you never know, but vary rare do the fork up, as it is usualy the customers fault for cranking their system with either a ****ty amp, or ****ty speakers...

imported_loudsubz

usually you get longer warrenties if installed by a professional (aka shop) ex. 1yr user install, 2-3 yrs if done by an authorized shop that sells the product, ex. RF etc.

now there is a couple possibilities here.

1.) The shop messed up the wiring somehow (very inlikely, even if polarity was switched still woulnd't cause a speaker to blow), now if they put a hole through one of the surrounds and it finally ripped all apart, or if they were testing the speakers, turned them up to loud (clipped them) then gave the car back to you and they were limping, then yes they could be at fault, but its hard to prove unless the shop is man enough and says they did it.

2.) You didn't know how loud they could go, or how much distortion was being introduced to them while playing, in this case its your fault they are no long working and you take the blame

3.) Manufacturer defect. It happens sometimes, spider comes apart, VC is shot from factory, the glue they use came undone, lots of possibilities but this day in age quality control is still pretty decent.

imported_cbishun

well this is the case,
my friend bought speakers from a shop and they hooked it up, ran all the wires, hooked up the amp, set all the gains and filters and everything, when asked how loud it can go he was told that its set so that there is very little distortion so dont worry, 1 week later everything was screwed up and when he took it back the guy said the speaker is fried he cant warranty it, so i was just wondering how its my friends fault when he paid the guy to hook everything up and make sure everything was set and 1 week it blows, i mean if he wanted to take the chance on frying it wouldnt u just hook it up yourself save $$, its like my friend paid the guy to fry the speakers and then has to end up buying new ones, it doesnt make sense to me

imported_Bruce Fee

just keep complaining and insisting you're right assuming the story you posted is real.

Whiplash

after just one week most shops'll warranty a speaker, especially when they did the install

btw, who's amp?? did he buy it too or was it his prior to the install??
did yer friend mess with the deck settings?? wanted to make them 6 1/2" inchers kick like 12's or scream the highs cuz he couldn't hear it from a mile away????

scarlemthug

Chris, if your buddy messed around with any of the settings on the deck for sound or on the amp then you cant hold the shop responsible. But IMO if a speaker blows after the shop has installed and set all the gains and filters themselves then the shop is responsible because you paid them to set it up properly.

What shop if you dont mind me asking ?

imported_loudsubz

well in this situation I say its a 50/50 ..

why? because your friend tested the limits of the equipment. Even if they were set properly, things can happen and it was ultimately your buddy who cranked them and blew it up. Does your buddy wan't to ruin his hearing? Could he not hear that the speaker were begging to be turned down? I hear it all the time, people think the louder the better sounding, so they crank it untill its a sqaure wave and think its great, I guess not everyone is picky about sound.

You would be lucky if the shop warrenties it, as its really your buddies fault.

scarlemthug

well if the shop said, you can turn it up to X volume and it will be fine and your buddy didnt touch anything then either they didnt set the gains properly or the speakers werent matched to the amps power

imported_loudsubz

...if a guy said I could go 250km/h in my car, doesn't mean I would do it. Its about common sense, if you felt the car shaking at 150km/h why take it passed? What people say and what you can do are totally irrelevant. Plus, the guy could have adjusted the settings which would have even worse adverse effects, unless he adjusted the gains with all settings on MAX, but nobody every does that

selective sound

iTrader: (2)

no matter what if he blew the subs he should still get warranty, if it is the first time. if you do it again then most manufacturers will not, due to abuse.I had a customer set his sub on fire and still got it warrantied.

imported_cbishun

its not subs, they are 5 1/2 or something like that, mids and highs basically in a 95 teg. its not a component set just 2 sets of speakers front and back.

The amp was my buddies originally, he didnt not buy it from the shop just the speakers from the shop.

As for deck settings i know for a fact that he didnt touch it because he wouldnt lie to me, it makes no sense.

As for him not knowing when the speakers are crying, i think he has a good idea, i mean i have had many systems big and small and i know when speakers can handle it or not and he pretty much has an ear like me. Infact he doesnt even listen to music that actually CAN go loud because his *** is getting old and it hurts his ears. lmao

I just think if the shop (sorry Chris dont wanna say what shop) takes his money too hook up the speakers and hook up the amp and set everything AND tell him dont worry its good 2 go cause its not distorting, then they should be able to take responisbility

imported_cbishun

to conclude this thread, the speakers were replaced at no cost to my buddy. However, he was told that he needed a crossover to prevent if from happening again so he changed the amp with one of mine. The amp was also installed and set properly for free by the shop.