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Old 18-Aug-2005, 02:44 PM
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Stock vs Aftermarket shocks.

My car came with Skunk2 coilovers on stock shocks. The ride is pretty harsh. Going over dips on the highways makes me cringe. Will the addition of something like Koni Reds improve the ride quality? Or will the ride sill be harsh?
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konis will improve the ride very much
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Old 18-Aug-2005, 05:02 PM
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Skunk2 coilovers have almost 3 times the spring rate of you stock springs and they will ride very stiff because of the high rates.
Stock 165F/80R
Skunk2 500F/400R
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Don't expect to go racing on Reds. I got 'em and I love em. BIG improvement over stock. I would have got the Yellows, but I was poor at the time!!
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save your money and get the best! trust me...although I'm lowered on stock shocks but with springs and my ride is near stock feeling
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Old 18-Aug-2005, 09:09 PM
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Any Koni product can be considered the best. The Reds are just cheaper, non-adjustable versions of the Yellows.

There is nothing wrong with the Reds. Unless you plan on adjusting your suspension on a regular basis or Auto-X/racing, the Reds are good enough. Mine are 3 years old and still going strong and I'm totally happy with them.
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Old 18-Aug-2005, 09:30 PM
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Re: Stock vs Aftermarket shocks.

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Or will the ride sill be harsh?

Your ride now is prob like mine was. Very rough and the seems to 'buck' around. The reds allow the ride to be stiff, but there is enough damping in them to smooth the ride out considerably. They must also be removed to adjust the damping force, not like the yellows which have a dial.
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Old 19-Aug-2005, 12:08 AM
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Thanks for the info.

Yes, it feels like I'm riding at a rodeo or something. I have been thrown out of my seat a few times on the bad dips (thanks for seat belts!). It's pretty terrible. I plan to ride it out like this through the winter and install some GOOD shocks in the spring. I just want something with enough damping that everything doesn't go flying when this thing kicks.

3 times the spring rate!!! Damn, what was the previous owner thinking!
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Old 19-Aug-2005, 12:11 AM
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And no, I probably won't be doing any auto-x or lapping. Sounds like the Reds are the way to go. Any other options at a better price point? What am I looking at, $700?
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Tokico Illuminas will be priced close to reds but are more comparable to yellows.
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Old 19-Aug-2005, 08:46 AM
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Just keep in mind that no matter what suspension you put in, the lower you go, the rougher it gets. If your car is lowered around 2" or more, it's going to be a rigid ride. Proper dampening will make it smoother, but you're still going to feel all the bumps and cacks. I've had two different suspension setups (AGX & H&R Sports and OMNI Coilovers) and with both I could feel just about every crack in the road and I would brace myself whenever I hit bigger bumps.

Ride quality will get a bit better, but handling is what's going to improve the most.

I would at least buy KONI Reds if I were in your shoes.

That's my two cents for you.
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so is it even worth buying adjustable shocks if you dont need them? what would you need them for anyway?

i had a tokico brochure and the compression charts of their blue line up is the same as their top of the line...except you can adjust the top of the line..and not the blues
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I've seen the tokico blues going cheaper than Koni Reds. Are they just as decent?
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Old 19-Aug-2005, 03:49 PM
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The Blues are not a s good as the Reds. Contact Astroboy for Koni prices. He was selling Reds for $500.
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for about 800 you could get the omnipower full coilovers.

im doing that soon, i think my stock shocks are popped
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Dude if you bouncing out of your seat don't wait. your car sounds like its dangerous!!!!!!Its dangerous to you and other's on the road. Don't be a cheap skate. Just buy the Red's slap em on. Get something better in a year or two.
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