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Old 02-Jun-2002, 01:53 AM
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hey guys just need some advice on shocks, just put on skunk2 coil overs my front end is fine but my rear end is bouncing big time. one of my shocks is leeking already(right rear). im on a tight budget and just wondering which shocks to get. ive read a lot of posts that says the KYB AGXs are the way to go but i think the post i read says its around 650+taxes, right now i cant afford that. any suggestions?.
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Old 02-Jun-2002, 02:01 AM
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What year Civic do you have? Buy a set of used OEM shocks for now, and wait till you can afford the KYB's. Anything cheaper than KYB's, new is not worth having. Tokico Blues = crap, Koni Reds = not totally bad, but not adjustable.
 
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its a 92 sedan....also have a lil question coz right now the rear end is sitting lower than the front, i tried adjusting the spring perches but the height doesnt seem to go up. i checked again and the spring perches are hitting the bottom part oh the shocks and just sits on it. so everytimg i adjust the ride height up it doesnt work, the sleeve only goes up. but i really do need shocks. please tell me that will solve my problems. thanks.
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Old 02-Jun-2002, 02:45 AM
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jugglez, is your car the white 4dr on the gallery? i think we have the same, if thats yours its just that u have a monster underneath the hood. hehe
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Yeah that's my ride. 1st things 1st, get the shocks replaced and see if that fixes it. I have a set of used OEM shocks still in good condition, if you want lemme know, I have the AGX's so I have no use for them anymore.
 
Old 02-Jun-2002, 09:58 PM
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Hey Duy, I've been having the same problem.

I am experimenting with R1 coil overs on my gen7 Si. The stock shocks are only a year old, and they do not work. I am thinking of getting dual stage coil overs (each coil over has a soft and stiff spring on it). I think that would be better for fixing the rough ride.

My OEM shocks haven't blown (yet) but they are getting beat up. Would the dual stage coil overs be better, or should I just get the KYB AGX shocks (do they even make those for gen 7's yet?)
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The dual stage springs or the double springs won't help your ride. The top spring in this set up is always loaded under normal driving conditions. The only time the upper spring does anything is in a situation when the the car gets light and the tire could lift off the ground eg. going over a hill at high speed or when the inside rear tire lifts off the ground in hard cornering. This is a great set up if you are really serious about racing or doing solo's, but realise that there is a great deal of time and experimentation needed when trying to match the spring rates of the upper spring with the spring rates of the lower spring and also the compression and rebound of your shocks.

Eric...
If you want to fix your ride get some shocks, adjustables if you can afford it. Another thing you might want to try is to swap the front springs with the rear one. If you put the coil overs in the way the manufacturers says you should the front springs are always stiffer than the rear springs. They do this to keep the understeer in the car. If you reverse the springs this will dial out some of the understeer and your car will be more neutral.
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jugglez if u have the oem shocks i can use that but it wouldnt help bring the ride height up but its gonna help lessen the bouncing. coz right now the car is a bitch to drive, how much do u want for them?.
autoxer i did follow the manufacturers instruction on which spring to put where, and yes the fronts are stiffer. thanks for all the help. jugglez just let me know how much for the oe shocks.
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The dual stage springs or the double springs won't help your ride. The top spring in this set up is always loaded under normal driving conditions. The only time the upper spring does anything is in a situation when the the car gets light and the tire could lift off the ground eg. going over a hill at high speed or when the inside rear tire lifts off the ground in hard cornering. This is a great set up if you are really serious about racing or doing solo's, but realise that there is a great deal of time and experimentation needed when trying to match the spring rates of the upper spring with the spring rates of the lower spring and also the compression and rebound of your shocks.

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If you want to fix your ride get some shocks, adjustables if you can afford it. Another thing you might want to try is to swap the front springs with the rear one. If you put the coil overs in the way the manufacturers says you should the front springs are always stiffer than the rear springs. They do this to keep the understeer in the car. If you reverse the springs this will dial out some of the understeer and your car will be more neutral.
I don't know if you missunderstood me Eric, but it's better to have the springs reversed, your car will handle better when you get the new shocks installed.
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I'm a pretty reasonable person. Gimme $40 bucks and I'll give all 4 to you. They were removed last summer and are still in fine condition. Hopefully I'll be at the meet in Mississagua on Tuesday, you can pick it up then if you want.... PM me and we'll work out the details.

snow_dragon_si: you need to look at some coil/springs as well as good shocks if you want a nice ride. It's not one or the other.
 
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Originally posted by autoxer
The dual stage springs or the double springs won't help your ride. The top spring in this set up is always loaded under normal driving conditions. The only time the upper spring does anything is in a situation when the the car gets light and the tire could lift off the ground eg. going over a hill at high speed or when the inside rear tire lifts off the ground in hard cornering. This is a great set up if you are really serious about racing or doing solo's, but realise that there is a great deal of time and experimentation needed when trying to match the spring rates of the upper spring with the spring rates of the lower spring and also the compression and rebound of your shocks.

Eric...
If you want to fix your ride get some shocks, adjustables if you can afford it. Another thing you might want to try is to swap the front springs with the rear one. If you put the coil overs in the way the manufacturers says you should the front springs are always stiffer than the rear springs. They do this to keep the understeer in the car. If you reverse the springs this will dial out some of the understeer and your car will be more neutral.
I checked KYB's web site, and they don't seem to have any AGX shocks available for gen 7 civics. I am sure they must, so I am going to keep on looking.

Also, would new strut mounts help to soften my ride? For now I am going to just get the shocks, and if it's still bumpy, I'll get the mounts too. Also, sometimes when I am going slowly over a speed bump, I hear a slight grinding noise coming from the bottom base of my front suspension. I think the coil overs are set really low, so the adjustments are rubbing against the OEM shock mount.

If anyone could give me some advice on how to to set up my suspension system, I would appreciate it. My car is starting to look really good, but I shudder everytime I think of driving it because the ride is so rough.
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