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Old 02-Mar-2005, 01:49 PM
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bruno is it possible for the ecu to be fucted too? cus if it is i would start by swapping his ecu into another car instead of rewiring
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Old 02-Mar-2005, 01:50 PM
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you test the O2 by reading voltage output at startup COLD, then 1 minute after starting, 2 minutes after starting, and 10 minutes after starting. tell us what the voltages are from the O2. DO NOT check resistance with a regular multimeter, you'll cook your O2. there is a test for the heater element, but this one should tell us everything we need to know for now. I forget the heater circuit test at the moment, but is should be easy to find should we need it. I'm guessing the guy fuct the wiring cuz there is 2 white wires, he prolly crossed them by accident??
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Old 02-Mar-2005, 01:51 PM
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yeah it's possible, but I have never actually seen a failed ECU. they are not that complex, they are INSIDE the car, and there are no moving parts. so yeah... unlikely that it can fail, esp given that the circuits giving faults are circuits that were rewired. also, if the wires are crossed, and caused the ECU to fault, then why risk another good ECU?? finally, OBD2 cars have self-check programs for the ECU, so the ECU itself can tell you it's bad.
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Old 02-Mar-2005, 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by kwikb16a2
to rewire buy some wire and start cutting and soldering but the problem is that because the colours arent oem i dont know what wire is for what
but why can't i jsut simply see your O2 sensor or for this matter any O2 sensor thats OEM and from the similar car and then see where that purple should go and then walla i'm good to go right?
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Old 02-Mar-2005, 01:55 PM
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you could possibly do that... but it's more reliable if you can determine for certain using a multimeter, which of the wires belong to the heater circuit. problem is if you test the O2 signal wires, you've just destroyed the O2.

Scott, do you have an O2 tester?
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Old 02-Mar-2005, 02:06 PM
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thanks for all thsi input
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Old 02-Mar-2005, 02:10 PM
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Originally posted by bbarbulo


Scott, do you have an O2 tester?
Oh, you mean a multimeter? Yes!

There is also a main PGM fuse that powers the HTC circutry, but if it was blown you would also get other errors for purge valve, ECT, etc.

Sounds like a wiring issue, or possibly ECU....but i'd check the wiring out first.
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Old 02-Mar-2005, 03:05 PM
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yeah it's possible, but I have never actually seen a failed ECU. they are not that complex, they are INSIDE the car, and there are no moving parts. so yeah... unlikely that it can fail, esp given that the circuits giving faults are circuits that were rewired. also, if the wires are crossed, and caused the ECU to fault, then why risk another good ECU?? finally, OBD2 cars have self-check programs for the ECU, so the ECU itself can tell you it's bad.
Thats why i said to put his ecu in another car (one that doesnt have a code). When i was wiring my O2 sensors a while ago i think i crossed some wires and zapped my ecu. It was a MAP code and couldnt figure out what it was for the life of me
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Old 02-Mar-2005, 03:16 PM
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haha Scott well... there are some O2 testers that are dedicated, but yeah, anyone with a multitester can figure it out too.
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Old 02-Mar-2005, 05:30 PM
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multimeter????wtf..not electrically inclined and have never used one. will a mechanic know to check for if i print thes tests you recomended.????

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best if you go to Scott. he's already read the thread and knows what it's about. and the bonus is... he's a mechanic
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