Kissed the Curb today.....
#22
Originally posted by bbarbulo
good to hear... glad nothing came of it... lesson learned
good to hear... glad nothing came of it... lesson learned
Lesson: Drift SLOWER in heavy snow!!!
#23
Lesson SHOULD be...
1. LET THE WHEELS TURN - don't even attempt at braking. Snow provides more rotational resistance than sliding with locked up brakes does.
2. Point the wheels in the direction of the skid. Two positive things happen here... #1 you reduce the rolling resistance of the wheel when you point it to go where inertia from the car is pushing it. Why is this important? Cuz the wheel will take the path of least resistance, whether it'd be rolling or sliding. The one that takes LESS energy is the thing that the wheel will do. When you are trying to slow down you want to INCREASE rolling resistance... so if the wheel is skidding, that means that rolling is the option that would provide more resistnace! Think about it. When you have the wheel rolling again, you have regained as much control of the car as you're gonna have. Use it wisely. If impact is certain:
#2 with the wheel turned in the direction of the skid, that means when you hit the curb the wheel is rolling with the punch. The suspension is made to absorb impacts (not this big but you understand....) so it is least likely to bend the frame or any susp parts. The impact will be transferred to the spring and bumpstop. You may fawk your caster up, but something's gotta give. Also, that's your suspension's strongest stance - again it's MADE to absorb impact, so if you introduce it from the front of the tire rather than the side, the susp is best equipped to deal with it. Likely you'll blow your shocks, but that's it. (depening on severity of impact)
that's all...
1. LET THE WHEELS TURN - don't even attempt at braking. Snow provides more rotational resistance than sliding with locked up brakes does.
2. Point the wheels in the direction of the skid. Two positive things happen here... #1 you reduce the rolling resistance of the wheel when you point it to go where inertia from the car is pushing it. Why is this important? Cuz the wheel will take the path of least resistance, whether it'd be rolling or sliding. The one that takes LESS energy is the thing that the wheel will do. When you are trying to slow down you want to INCREASE rolling resistance... so if the wheel is skidding, that means that rolling is the option that would provide more resistnace! Think about it. When you have the wheel rolling again, you have regained as much control of the car as you're gonna have. Use it wisely. If impact is certain:
#2 with the wheel turned in the direction of the skid, that means when you hit the curb the wheel is rolling with the punch. The suspension is made to absorb impacts (not this big but you understand....) so it is least likely to bend the frame or any susp parts. The impact will be transferred to the spring and bumpstop. You may fawk your caster up, but something's gotta give. Also, that's your suspension's strongest stance - again it's MADE to absorb impact, so if you introduce it from the front of the tire rather than the side, the susp is best equipped to deal with it. Likely you'll blow your shocks, but that's it. (depening on severity of impact)
that's all...
#26
Thanks for the info Bruno.
I always try to prevent the wheel from locking. And I know the basics too. This happened becuase my turn enterance speed was too high and the all season tires lost grip. Car went straight for the curb. I hand braked so the rear end turns and puts the car back in the direction of the turn. However, since the speed was high, and front tires had no grip, even that didn't help to recover. Car couldn't dig out on time and slipped through the snow, hitting the curb sideways. If there was less snow, the front tires would have more grip and the car would dig out and get back on track....
Anyway, I get what your saying... Thats good info there for beginners.
p.s. Last night, I drifted the same corner that claimed my rim the night before. This time, having in mind the amount of snow on the road and the all seasons traction rate, I entered with lower speed and made it out gracefully.
I always try to prevent the wheel from locking. And I know the basics too. This happened becuase my turn enterance speed was too high and the all season tires lost grip. Car went straight for the curb. I hand braked so the rear end turns and puts the car back in the direction of the turn. However, since the speed was high, and front tires had no grip, even that didn't help to recover. Car couldn't dig out on time and slipped through the snow, hitting the curb sideways. If there was less snow, the front tires would have more grip and the car would dig out and get back on track....
Anyway, I get what your saying... Thats good info there for beginners.
p.s. Last night, I drifted the same corner that claimed my rim the night before. This time, having in mind the amount of snow on the road and the all seasons traction rate, I entered with lower speed and made it out gracefully.
#28
Bah.. i curbed my civic 2 times in total. First time i was coming down a hill to a stop sign. Downshifted into first coz i was going walking pace... not even. Braked at the same time too, front wheels locked up and the car slide right into a small curb. Even though it was a very slow moving impact, i felt it hard. My alignment is out slightly, so i gotta hold the wheel left a little, and the rim was scuffed, but they have since been replaced by another steelie with winter rubber on it. The other time I Was driving thru a parking lot and drove right over a little median curb. It looked like just another small snow drift I had driven thru. I hate curbs.
#29
Well thats a relief!!!!
I just checked the damaged side with the steering totally turned and compared the LCA and other suspension parts to the other side. They all looked the same. I didn't notice anything nasty...
I just checked the damaged side with the steering totally turned and compared the LCA and other suspension parts to the other side. They all looked the same. I didn't notice anything nasty...
If I were you, I would still get an alinement done to make sure everything's ok.
#30
Your lucky dude! i drove over a island (the ones in the middle of the road) at about 25 km a hour. Please dont ask why lol
#31
Originally posted by Sleekef
Your lucky dude! i drove over a island (the ones in the middle of the road) at about 25 km a hour. Please dont ask why lol
Your lucky dude! i drove over a island (the ones in the middle of the road) at about 25 km a hour. Please dont ask why lol
Was it because it was there?
#33
Originally posted by PULOVR
Was it because it was there?
Was it because it was there?
#34
Originally posted by Notorious
Good to hear nothing happened to the car
What ever happened to "Team Camelia Red!"?
Good to hear nothing happened to the car
What ever happened to "Team Camelia Red!"?
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