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Old 30-Mar-2004, 09:32 PM
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What's a fuel regulator? Is there more to fuel delivery than just tank->pump->filter->rail->injector->manifold ?

I thought regulators are used in compressed liquid gases like N2O and Propane to atomize them before blending. I didn't know there was such a thing as a gasoline fuel regulator.
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Old 30-Mar-2004, 09:33 PM
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I have a fpr, injectors, fuel pump.....


Reason for needing a new fuel rail is because while installing the fpr, the bolt decided to break on me inside the stock fuel rail, so I said time to upgrade (Y)
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^^ thats a good enough reason
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Originally posted by mourad
What's a fuel regulator? Is there more to fuel delivery than just tank->pump->filter->rail->injector->manifold ?

I thought regulators are used in compressed liquid gases like N2O and Propane to atomize them before blending. I didn't know there was such a thing as a gasoline fuel regulator.
indeed fuel return is in there too and the fpr regulates the pressure in the rail, returning fuel to keep pressure @ 43 psi (i think thats the right number)

so we have...

tank->pump->filter->rail->injector->manifold
................................->fpr->return line->tank
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Old 31-Mar-2004, 09:26 AM
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wait a minute... the regulator and return lines come AFTER the intake manifold? Where is that located in a 5th gen, just trying to get a visual.

But yeah, it makes sense now, forgot about the return lines. Thanks.
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the fuel press reg on a 5th gen is on the driver's side of the rail, it's a little tophat lookin thing
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Old 31-Mar-2004, 10:13 AM
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Originally posted by mourad
wait a minute... the regulator and return lines come AFTER the intake manifold? Where is that located in a 5th gen, just trying to get a visual.

But yeah, it makes sense now, forgot about the return lines. Thanks.

well i guess my line art is pretty crappy....its sort of like a y joint at the fuel rail....to fpr and injectors
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Old 31-Mar-2004, 10:17 AM
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lol my bad, I get it now. I think this is what you meant to draw:

.................................rail->injector->manifold
.............................../
tank->pump->filter
...............................\
.................................fpr->return line->tank

Is that right or does the Y split come after the FPR with a line going to the rail and the other back to the tank?
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................................/->injector->manifold
tank->pump->filter->rail
................................\->fpr->return line->tank
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Old 31-Mar-2004, 10:36 AM
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you sure that's the layout? I don't see an outbound line from the fuel rail - only an inbound. Maybe I'm missing it
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Old 31-Mar-2004, 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by mourad
you sure that's the layout? I don't see an outbound line from the fuel rail - only an inbound. Maybe I'm missing it
outbound would be on the fpr
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....................................rail->injector->manifold
.................................../
tank->pump->filter->fpr
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.....................................return line->tank
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Old 31-Mar-2004, 10:40 AM
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well you have yours splitting at the filter, there is only a single line come from the filter.

i will take a pic of my engine bay later today and show it all
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Old 31-Mar-2004, 10:41 AM
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Yeah I corrected the diagram. My bad.
Thanx dude
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Originally posted by mourad
.......................................rail->injector->manifold
....................................../
tank->pump->filter->fpr
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........................................return line->tank
fpr is at outbound end of rail...it regulates the rail pressure by dumping any fuel in excess of pressure back into tank
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Old 31-Mar-2004, 10:53 AM
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if fpr is outbound from rail, it means that there is an outbound line from the rail but you said:

you sure that's the layout? I don't see an outbound line from the fuel rail - only an inbound. Maybe I'm missing it
outbound would be on the fpr
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The FPR is mounted to the rail on the driver side of the rail, it's about an inch tall, inch diameter with a vacuum line at the top of it. The fuel-in line comes from the pass side of the car into the pass side of the rail. Hose says "fuel" on it
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Originally posted by mourad
if fpr is outbound from rail, it means that there is an outbound line from the rail but you said:


outbound would be on the fpr
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okay well yes....no outbound line DIRECTLY on rail. But the fpr is on rail and outbound line on fpr.

fpr has vacuum on top and return on bottom
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got it.
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