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Old 10-Nov-2005, 03:27 PM
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did you do all the bushings your self or did you get it done?
i was talking to a couple of mechanics and they were saying i am looking at around 300 dollars for labour alone since it is super time consuming.

but the good about my stuff right now is that like I said the car is still in a million pieces so that should help eliminate alot of crap like taking the stuff apart first to access the bushings etc..
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also does the kit come with grease or lubricant? or do we have to buy that extra?
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Old 10-Nov-2005, 03:50 PM
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so wait, energy suspension bushings? i can get these for the steering rack? where do i get this? and slop is the exact word... cause i have summer performance tires now with kyb agx set stiff all the way and apex lowering springs... so i covered all that... my turn in is a bit better in the front, but there is still lot of steering slop... oh man, you nailed it.. please give me more info on how to get it, what i need to replace to make sure i cover all aspects of the steering and where i can get it installed. thanks so much!!!
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Old 10-Nov-2005, 04:30 PM
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black don't squeak? they sure do squeak like a ****. i don't know where you got your info on between the black or reds nor am i saying you are wrong but i spoke with the ppl at JRP and a few different mechanics and they all say its the same thing. only difference is colour preference i guess. the colour has nothing to do with the squeaking. i have both red and black on my car and both squeak. it's a matter of using enough grease or lubricant when you install them. i have red polyurethane endlinks on my car and shifter bushings. the whole suspension are blacks. when i go over rough surfaces in neutral i can hear my front sway squeaking like a rat but not to the point where it's anoying.



mikepasini, try JRP since you're from sauga. they're near QEW and winston churchill.
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Old 10-Nov-2005, 04:34 PM
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as for your question TR, 300 to install a master kit? if so that is dirt cheap so i recomend you do it right away! i got a quote of 400 from one of my mechanics to do the entire car. usually all the kits come with lubricant but most of the time it isn't enough. especially if you have like a master kit or something. i put 2 different sets of polyurethane bushings on my rear lcas and the first one was on eg lcas and 2nd was on integra lcas. the person who installed the first ones only used the lubricant that came with the kit but i made the 2nd guy drown the bushings in grease for the integra like a **** and it doesn't even squeak like the ones on my eg lcas.
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When I Installed the Energy suspension master bushing kit(black) I used all of the silicone grease supplied with the kit and about 5lbs more in wheel bearing grease just coating EVERYTHING. No rust, no squeeks, no problem.
By myself including the large trailing arm bushings it probably took me about 10 hrs. Oxy-Acetylene torch is your friend.
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Originally posted by trackhack
When I Installed the Energy suspension master bushing kit(black) I used all of the silicone grease supplied with the kit and about 5lbs more in wheel bearing grease just coating EVERYTHING. No rust, no squeeks, no problem.
By myself including the large trailing arm bushings it probably took me about 10 hrs. Oxy-Acetylene torch is your friend.
yeah but make sure you have some good ventilation in the garage while doing it cuz that stuff stinks like crazy when you start torching them.
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Old 10-Nov-2005, 04:44 PM
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Originally posted by SaYjAiBaO


yeah but make sure you have some good ventilation in the garage while doing it cuz that stuff stinks like crazy when you start torching them.
Maybe that's why i get headaches...
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Old 10-Nov-2005, 06:45 PM
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Originally posted by SaYjAiBaO
black don't squeak? they sure do squeak like a ****. i don't know where you got your info on between the black or reds
Dude its your reds squeeking

I get my info from the manufacturer and distributers.

Look what a quick google search turns up


http://www.performancesuspension.com/polymainpage.htm



note the third paragraph

http://www.sfxperformance.com/parts/...Suspension.asp




STRAIGHT FROM THE HORSES MOUTH

ENERGY SUSPENSION WEBSITE Q&A



Now for alittle tcc search


http://www.torontocivics.com/tccforu...nsion+graphite


http://www.torontocivics.com/tccforu...nsion+graphite


Anyway you get the point
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Old 10-Nov-2005, 06:52 PM
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Originally posted by Team Rukus
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did you do all the bushings your self or did you get it done?
i was talking to a couple of mechanics and they were saying i am looking at around 300 dollars for labour alone since it is super time consuming.

but the good about my stuff right now is that like I said the car is still in a million pieces so that should help eliminate alot of crap like taking the stuff apart first to access the bushings etc..

I did it all myself, it was allot of work... a good idea is to do all the mechanical work and then send the parts out to a shop with a press and let them do all the grunt work.

The kit comes with plenty of lube...If your useing more your just wasteing it because the bushings are pressed in so it all the access just squirts out onto your bench and makes a mess.

300 is a good price, maybe he will do it for less if you have all the parts removed, thats prolly 50% of the work, plus the fact of not having your car takeing up one of his bays the whole time...


And It was Astroboy I got my kit from, best price I could find... even better than ebay.
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Old 10-Nov-2005, 06:57 PM
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Originally posted by mikepasini
so wait, energy suspension bushings? i can get these for the steering rack? where do i get this? and slop is the exact word... cause i have summer performance tires now with kyb agx set stiff all the way and apex lowering springs... so i covered all that... my turn in is a bit better in the front, but there is still lot of steering slop... oh man, you nailed it.. please give me more info on how to get it, what i need to replace to make sure i cover all aspects of the steering and where i can get it installed. thanks so much!!!


Do a master kit, it comes with everything, you'll gizz your pants the first corner you hit Makes your car have that super tight go-cart feeling, kinda like a virgin puss


PM astroboy.
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Old 10-Nov-2005, 09:03 PM
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so, is the master kit available for my civic? how much for the kit and approx how much for installation?
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Old 10-Nov-2005, 09:35 PM
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Originally posted by mikepasini
so, is the master kit available for my civic? how much for the kit and approx how much for installation?

all your questions have already been answerd, read your own thread!


yah its available for your car pm astroboy
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Old 10-Nov-2005, 10:21 PM
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yeah go with the master kit, i made the mistake by not going with it. could be only my reds squeaking, who knows my car makes all sorts of noises, noisy brakes, lack of sound deadening, polyurethane bushings, etc. i really want to try the steering rack bushings but i'm not sure if you can buy those seperately.
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Old 17-Nov-2005, 10:14 AM
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What a coincidence.. I was driving my sisters Lancer and I noticed that her steering was so responsive. if anyone finds out about buying the Bushing mentioned in this thread seperately. Let me know.
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Old 17-Nov-2005, 11:56 AM
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Don't forget ball joints and tire rod ends.
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Or better tires like I mentioned. You can have the best suspension set-up and all new parts, but crappy tires will still ruin the handling.
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