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25-Feb-2005, 04:15 PM

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Originally posted by Dr.K
When you shift gears you fall back around Peak TORQUE and rise to peak HORSEPOWER. And HP is jsut a #. You can only Measure Torque which is twisting force. So If your Engine Rev's higher you can have quicker gears and accelerate faster. Because simple math dictates that torque to the ground multiply's by gearing. And why are you mentioning hp from 1000RPM up?..When's the last time you launched your car from idle. When It come's to all out speed PEAK hp is what matter's. You shouldn't be at anything less than 6000RPM. But go ahead, call me an Idiot. An old Hemi's powerband is only 4000-5000 or so RPM. A 440's is around 2500-4500 RPM. The 440 has more displacement and make's more torque and has a fatter power band. But the Hemi was still faster.there's other factor's involved but even back in the day the car's powerband was only 1000RPM big. Just like now. Sure your sacrificing Driveability but were looking at the overall #'s right? So yes a broader powerband will make a Quick car easier to drive. A Car with high peak #'s will be more of a Bitch to drive but will be faster overall. You want to pull from peak Torque when your cylinder pressure is at its highest. And you want to make your #'s higher up to take advantage of gearing.

Last time for the fully retarded. Learn to read dyno graphs and understand how stupid you sound. If you can't understand this there is no help for you. If we both launch our cars at 3500rpm the LS/VTEC will
make more power then the B16 in hp and torque, at 4500rpm it will make more hp and torque, all the way to 7600 to 8000rpm, it will make bigger numbers then your B16 that makes the same peak numbers. the difference is I don't have to stress the motor like you do to make 200hp because the displacement makes up for the difference of reving it like your so hooked on. So when we shift I make more hp and torque in that area then you. Just because you make the same final peak number doesn't mean everything under that curve is the same or better then a bigger motor that doesn't have to push it. There is no substitute for cubic inch. Learn before you speak.

Lets not talk about the 87 Buick Regal because that isn't worth talking about, If you want to talk about the 87 GN then............... the pic speaks for itself

25-Feb-2005, 04:57 PM

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this thread makes me wanna

cause we managed to travel way away from the origional question of this thread. fighting about who is right on the internet is kinda dumb. if u think u r right then thats good but please answer the origional question and please move on with this.

25-Feb-2005, 07:48 PM

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Ya this started as a simple question and now its turned into an all out argument concerning powerbands. And i don't think gforce or I will ever let up so we might as well stop this super off topic thread. And T-Type's and GN's/GNX's are sick. I love them. One of the best drag car's of all time while we were off topic.....

10-Mar-2005, 12:37 AM

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thanks for replies guys....or better yet the arguments

ive asked this question beacause i just bought an Ek hatch with a b18b block and a b16 head, with a ys4 tranny (i believe thats an SIR tranny)

So i just needed a few opinions on this motor and its adv./drawbacks

I bought the car from a friend, he did the whole swap himself and I trust his work...

im not sure if the oil squirter was added to this swap.....
I just know that the head was slightly shaved to level with the block...

i believe everything else is stock...
the motor setup already has around 30K on it from the previous owner, and no problems.....ive been told to shift at around 7500 max....

Thanks to all replies...ive still got to learn more bout this swap..and i will dyno it soon