B16 Externals....
09-Oct-2003, 12:43 PM
#21
how about you save $3000, and ask me then what you should do? I don't feel like typing out all the stuff that's already out there on turbos.... like size, fuel, ignition, intercooling, etc...
IMO, you should buy a used but complete Greddy kit for a twin cam Del Sol, and install that for an instant power boost. Or the more expensive Vortech supercharger.
IMO, you should buy a used but complete Greddy kit for a twin cam Del Sol, and install that for an instant power boost. Or the more expensive Vortech supercharger.
09-Oct-2003, 12:56 PM
#23
a fuel pump and FPR is a great upgrade... do gauges as well.... A/F, EGT, oil press, and boost/vacuum and fuel press under the hood too. Then save some money and upgrade the ignition, then upgrade your injectors to RC 440s. You already have a VAFC, so that's good. Given those, you'll be able to just literally bolt up a turbo manifold and turbo, run some oil and coolant lines, run the charge pipes and drive over to the dyno facilities for tuning. Oh, and a thick copper head gasket would be good too!
09-Oct-2003, 01:32 PM
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I have Air Fuel and Oil Pressure.
Now, what is EGT ? Fuel Pressure under the hood ? Is boost the same thing as vacuum (just by the way you wrote it)
And it doesn't matter what type of gauges does it ?
Now, what is EGT ? Fuel Pressure under the hood ? Is boost the same thing as vacuum (just by the way you wrote it)
And it doesn't matter what type of gauges does it ?
09-Oct-2003, 01:34 PM
#26
I use a Holley 255 LPH F/I pump, but if you are on a budget you can use a Walbro 255 or a Prelude pump.
FPR, I use a B&M unit, but you could go with the high dollar AEM unit like Slvr_Bullet is using.
FPR, I use a B&M unit, but you could go with the high dollar AEM unit like Slvr_Bullet is using.
09-Oct-2003, 01:47 PM
#28
haha... well, just cuz I use them, I suppose doesn't mean they are the best, but their price/features were just right in my range and fit the bill perfectly.
Holley pumps are made by Walbro, personally I would have preferred a Denso pump, but those are hard to come by... and the B&M I bought at DKN along with my kuyokugen lug nuts so I got a great deal on that stuff!
Holley pumps are made by Walbro, personally I would have preferred a Denso pump, but those are hard to come by... and the B&M I bought at DKN along with my kuyokugen lug nuts so I got a great deal on that stuff!
09-Oct-2003, 03:25 PM
#30
well, those would be the best, but not because I use them 
LOL
anyways, about the other questions, EGT is exhaust gas temperature... a spicey meat-a-ball indeed, also known as a pyrometer.
B&M fuel pressure gauge, goes on top of your fuel filter....
boost/vacuum are the same gauge, but until you get a turbo you'll never see it go into boost... well... because there IS no boost it just shows negative or positive pressure in your intake manifold.
If you already have some gauges, (Auto Meter I hope) it's good to stay with the same series, and it's best to use elec gauges as opposed to mechanical ones.
LOLanyways, about the other questions, EGT is exhaust gas temperature... a spicey meat-a-ball indeed, also known as a pyrometer.
B&M fuel pressure gauge, goes on top of your fuel filter....
boost/vacuum are the same gauge, but until you get a turbo you'll never see it go into boost... well... because there IS no boost
it just shows negative or positive pressure in your intake manifold.If you already have some gauges, (Auto Meter I hope) it's good to stay with the same series, and it's best to use elec gauges as opposed to mechanical ones.
09-Oct-2003, 03:30 PM
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Sounds like a plan.
And yes, I have AutoMeter.
Where can I get some of these gauges ? Hopefully they aren't TOO TOO expensive. Last time I checked, what were they $80 ? or something
And yes, I have AutoMeter.
Where can I get some of these gauges ? Hopefully they aren't TOO TOO expensive. Last time I checked, what were they $80 ? or something
09-Oct-2003, 05:25 PM
#35
measures the exhaust gas temps... too high, you detonate and melt your pistons, too low you are running too rich. Keep an eye on what' going on inside the combustion chamber. Boosted cars need 'em badly!
09-Oct-2003, 11:16 PM
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yo to run 13's you will a) need to lighten teh load abit from what I hear
B)get soem gnarly cams liek skunk 2 stage 2''s or tada b's or jun 3's
c)slicks with soem dyno tiem to boot
to run a turbo these guys are retarded your gonna get a fuel pump now liek a 255 or 190 that will over run yoru FPR for what gain at this point in time while you are allmotor....you already have a AFC so all you need is some injectors and a b&m FPR and pump if you go FI, that would take care of your fuel system...you would abviously wait till you slap the turbo on to get the pump and FPR and injecotors.. and a BTM msd ignition will take car of that part...you already have a afc so that is great....in the end you are lookgin at alot of money, adn why woudl you be acumulating all these parts liek a pump and **** when you cant' even use them they are fringe items at this point....I think a turbo is out of the equation cause it is alot of money..do you have 5000 to spare...just get some CTR cams or some stage 1's what ever they may be wiith ITR valve train (rpm's under 8600)with gears tune it gain 10 - 15Whp then call her quits unless you want to swap in a GSr or some **** you arn't gonna be flyign in a b16 allmotor and it can't take much boost either....be happy or get soemthign else cause the money issue is jsut to much from where you are right nwo with a b16 with breathers...a b18b turbo setup will be cheaper and better and a b18c would be better for allmotor...
B)get soem gnarly cams liek skunk 2 stage 2''s or tada b's or jun 3's
c)slicks with soem dyno tiem to boot
to run a turbo these guys are retarded your gonna get a fuel pump now liek a 255 or 190 that will over run yoru FPR for what gain at this point in time while you are allmotor....you already have a AFC so all you need is some injectors and a b&m FPR and pump if you go FI, that would take care of your fuel system...you would abviously wait till you slap the turbo on to get the pump and FPR and injecotors.. and a BTM msd ignition will take car of that part...you already have a afc so that is great....in the end you are lookgin at alot of money, adn why woudl you be acumulating all these parts liek a pump and **** when you cant' even use them they are fringe items at this point....I think a turbo is out of the equation cause it is alot of money..do you have 5000 to spare...just get some CTR cams or some stage 1's what ever they may be wiith ITR valve train (rpm's under 8600)with gears tune it gain 10 - 15Whp then call her quits unless you want to swap in a GSr or some **** you arn't gonna be flyign in a b16 allmotor and it can't take much boost either....be happy or get soemthign else cause the money issue is jsut to much from where you are right nwo with a b16 with breathers...a b18b turbo setup will be cheaper and better and a b18c would be better for allmotor...
10-Oct-2003, 12:02 AM
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I skipped thru 1/2 of your stuff...
he only has a Vafc, not Safc.... he'll need an Safc at LEAST if he wants to even try boost. But why.... there are soo many other NICER cars out there that come from the factory turbocharged.
BTW Stevo, I ran into your parents tonight at Stef's.
he only has a Vafc, not Safc.... he'll need an Safc at LEAST if he wants to even try boost. But why.... there are soo many other NICER cars out there that come from the factory turbocharged.
BTW Stevo, I ran into your parents tonight at Stef's.
...you arn'te gonna go real fast with a b16 unless your gonna spend lot's of money...not the best money per hp setup..
10-Oct-2003, 04:34 PM
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Dingus speaks poorly, but does mention some good points.... but here is my opinion.
As for getting the parts you mentioned, I'd suggest learning to use the parts you have first. Absolutely no need for fuel system changes at your point. A fuel pump would be a silly choice. You would be flowing FAR TOO MUCH fuel and would then have to back the fuel out of your maps on VAFC to make the thing run well...so no benefit there. Increased fuel pressure is basically a cheap way to get more fuel into the chamber. You have a VAFC...want more fuel...tune it.
Of your list above, the only parts that would serve their purpose would be the gauges. EGT is a bit much for a lightly modded car but it would do it's job. Fuel pressure gauge, although it wouldn't do anything for you , would do its job.
Everything else (minus Turbo) would do nothing for you.
Opps - forgot to mention MSD. It may make it fire up a bit stronger but don't expect any performance improvements.
You want improvements, you need to do internals.
As for getting the parts you mentioned, I'd suggest learning to use the parts you have first. Absolutely no need for fuel system changes at your point. A fuel pump would be a silly choice. You would be flowing FAR TOO MUCH fuel and would then have to back the fuel out of your maps on VAFC to make the thing run well...so no benefit there. Increased fuel pressure is basically a cheap way to get more fuel into the chamber. You have a VAFC...want more fuel...tune it.
Of your list above, the only parts that would serve their purpose would be the gauges. EGT is a bit much for a lightly modded car but it would do it's job. Fuel pressure gauge, although it wouldn't do anything for you , would do its job.
Everything else (minus Turbo) would do nothing for you.
Opps - forgot to mention MSD. It may make it fire up a bit stronger but don't expect any performance improvements.
You want improvements, you need to do internals.
