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Old 28-Jul-2006, 09:38 AM
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attn suspension gurus!! Toe change with konis on lower perch?

Hi guys, It looks like I may be picking up a used set of koni reds. If I install the spring on the lower perch, I think theres a 15mm change in ride height. I just had a fresh alignment. Should I expect a change in toe with this?? I'm not concerned about camber, because I'm using 1.75" lowering springs, and the toe settings are well within spec right now. Thanks for your input. Sorry for all these damn threads! Ryan
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Old 28-Jul-2006, 09:56 AM
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Hmmm..

To sorta answer your question. I'm pretty sure that The RED's dont have the lower perch setting on them. They are basically an OEM replacement w/ about 3 settings for dampering.

The Yellows on the other hand Have a bunch of dampering settings and a lower Perch for the lower ride hight.

Correct me if im wrong about the Red's though.
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Old 28-Jul-2006, 10:10 AM
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I think most red models have two perches, thats what Ive been reading anyway. What are yoru thoughts, assuming they do. Ive heard 15mm difference between the two, and I'm also assuming the highest perch is stock.
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Old 28-Jul-2006, 10:17 AM
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The Reds for the EK type Civics do have different perches. They are only on the rear however and from what I remember with mine, 15 mm might be much.

I doubt you would even notice the difference. 15mm isn't that much and your suspension can change by small amounts on a daily basis just depending on whats loaded in your car. Fuel, cargo, etc can all change the stance by a few mm.
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Old 28-Jul-2006, 10:24 AM
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Yeah thats a good point. Its mainly the rear that looks a little jacked on the car as it sits. Its acutally an acura Vigor, with accord shocks going in, so not sure of the accord shocks vs. the EK's. I may just put the rear on the lower perch and measure the difference. Any ideas on dampening settings? I'm going to be doing the odd track event and dont mind a firm setup. The reds arent as stiff as the yellows so should I just go full stiff all around? I dont hink its unbearable for daily use wiht the reds. Anyone have experience witht he reds?
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Old 29-Jul-2006, 09:59 PM
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i have koni reds and they are duel perches all the way around. Also there is a retaing clip which will drop the spring another 3/4 inch. Dropped the EL 3" it is to this day a very good 3 way adjustible shock. I have them on full stiffness, even with my skunk coilovers which have a higher springrate than H&R race spring rode amazing
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