5-bolt conversion
19-Nov-2002, 01:13 PM
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1. Yes, ssr wheels are available in 4 bolt (but you already knew that)...take SSR over Racing Hart. If on a budget consider Lenso VPD also known as Axis VPD. Or Konig Subzero. Though cheap, these wheels will be able to take street driving, unless you eat a curb. If you eat a curb, the replacement cost of the rim will not be astronomical, and it will be easier to find too. The VPD is 4 bolt only, and really light for such an inexpensive wheel. SCC used it on Project Sweet 16 (Nissan Sentra GA16 engine).
2. I didn't realize the only reason for the conversion was cause you couldn't find SSRs in 4 lugs.
3. SW20, many people like myself that run the "widest" 205 tire we can find run into the same problem, rubbing on the inside of the fender. I run a 7" rim. I have had to remove the clip that holds the fender liner to the top of the fender cause I needed that mm of space on that side, and there is not much I could do for the inside. There are many different manufacturers of tires, and not all of them are exactly 205 mm wide...some are as wide as 210mm, some as narrow as 198mm, so it depends on what you have purchased. I wanted the widest footprint available, so this is what I have to deal with. When I was rubbing, the car was real low. It has been raised since a little bit (I have H&R coilovers) to gain back some wheel travel in the front and to maintain proper CV joint geometry. Also, since the tire has worn since, I do not rub anymore. Please note that the rubbing was just enough to remove the thick coat of latex waxy stuff that they dealership sold me for $500 as rust protection when I bought the car brand new. It was not enough to rub the paint, so you can imagine I only have less than a mm of "interference" if you wanna call it that. Unless you are meticulous about your car like me you would never know...it did not make a rubbing noise. Hope that answers your question.
2. I didn't realize the only reason for the conversion was cause you couldn't find SSRs in 4 lugs.
3. SW20, many people like myself that run the "widest" 205 tire we can find run into the same problem, rubbing on the inside of the fender. I run a 7" rim. I have had to remove the clip that holds the fender liner to the top of the fender cause I needed that mm of space on that side, and there is not much I could do for the inside. There are many different manufacturers of tires, and not all of them are exactly 205 mm wide...some are as wide as 210mm, some as narrow as 198mm, so it depends on what you have purchased. I wanted the widest footprint available, so this is what I have to deal with. When I was rubbing, the car was real low. It has been raised since a little bit (I have H&R coilovers) to gain back some wheel travel in the front and to maintain proper CV joint geometry. Also, since the tire has worn since, I do not rub anymore. Please note that the rubbing was just enough to remove the thick coat of latex waxy stuff that they dealership sold me for $500 as rust protection when I bought the car brand new. It was not enough to rub the paint, so you can imagine I only have less than a mm of "interference" if you wanna call it that. Unless you are meticulous about your car like me you would never know...it did not make a rubbing noise. Hope that answers your question.
19-Nov-2002, 01:42 PM
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You're right. The X-factor is always the tire size variations between manufacturers. Those Falken Azenis tires sure are wide for a 205!
If you want a cheap and lightweight wheel, the best value is probably the Konig Helium. They look like the Volk CE28N and weight 10.8lbs in 15x6.5.
If you want a cheap and lightweight wheel, the best value is probably the Konig Helium. They look like the Volk CE28N and weight 10.8lbs in 15x6.5.
19-Nov-2002, 02:06 PM
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SSR is cooler but you pay for it. Pay for it cause the process (low pressure casting) is expensive, but results in a very good and low porousity cast. This means good wheels.
You guys may laugh, but look up Centerline Excel (I think). Really light, relatively cheap, not very good looking....but one piece forged. Those who know...forged wheels are really strong. Here is a pic
You guys may laugh, but look up Centerline Excel (I think). Really light, relatively cheap, not very good looking....but one piece forged. Those who know...forged wheels are really strong. Here is a pic
19-Nov-2002, 02:56 PM
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SSR wheels totally rock. If money is no object, buy the SSR's. The SSR's will be solid cause they are forged - or Semi Solid Forged as SSR calls it.
Originally posted by NoSpleeny
Are SSR rims stiff? I know they're light.. but are they stiff still?
What makes your car look cooler?
SSR or Konig?
Are SSR rims stiff? I know they're light.. but are they stiff still?
What makes your car look cooler?
SSR or Konig?
19-Nov-2002, 02:58 PM
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Any idea how much they cost? Do they come in 15"? I need a track wheel and could care less how they look. 
Originally posted by bbarbulo
You guys may laugh, but look up Centerline Excel (I think). Really light, relatively cheap, not very good looking....but one piece forged. Those who know...forged wheels are really strong. Here is a pic
You guys may laugh, but look up Centerline Excel (I think). Really light, relatively cheap, not very good looking....but one piece forged. Those who know...forged wheels are really strong. Here is a pic
19-Nov-2002, 03:14 PM
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Nope...17 is the smallest cuz they are so light.
http://www.centerlinewheels.com/w_catalog/excel.html
No idea what the cost is either, but my buddy picked some up a few months back, and I remember slapping my knee and exclaiming "Goddamn that's a good price" I could ask my buddy, but his reply would take longer than for you to check tire rack and discount tire sites. I'd do it, but you are prob not interested since they don't make 15s.
http://www.centerlinewheels.com/w_catalog/excel.html
No idea what the cost is either, but my buddy picked some up a few months back, and I remember slapping my knee and exclaiming "Goddamn that's a good price"
I could ask my buddy, but his reply would take longer than for you to check tire rack and discount tire sites. I'd do it, but you are prob not interested since they don't make 15s.
19-Nov-2002, 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by bbarbulo
Hold up...you're doing a DC2R 5 bolt on a 2002 Civic LX??? You best try again. You will need the DC5 suspension parts to complete your 7th gen Civic. Everyone has been answering as if you had a 5th or 6th gen. No idea what these parts go for, but your best bet is to hook up with a wrecker. Not even sure whether it will fit, but I know for sure DC2 stuff will NOT FIT.
5th and 6th gens use offset between 38 and 42. 42 if you like slight rubbing on the inside of your fenderwell, 40 if you want it perfect, and 38 if you like to rub your fender. Well, sometimes you have no choice, but at least w/ 42, you can space your wheel out 1mm and have no rubbing. I have made stainless steel spacers before for a guy with 300ZX twin turbo Brembo brakes on his 240SX, and he just needed that 1 mm to clear the wheels. Worked like a charm.
Hold up...you're doing a DC2R 5 bolt on a 2002 Civic LX??? You best try again. You will need the DC5 suspension parts to complete your 7th gen Civic. Everyone has been answering as if you had a 5th or 6th gen. No idea what these parts go for, but your best bet is to hook up with a wrecker. Not even sure whether it will fit, but I know for sure DC2 stuff will NOT FIT.
5th and 6th gens use offset between 38 and 42. 42 if you like slight rubbing on the inside of your fenderwell, 40 if you want it perfect, and 38 if you like to rub your fender.
Well, sometimes you have no choice, but at least w/ 42, you can space your wheel out 1mm and have no rubbing. I have made stainless steel spacers before for a guy with 300ZX twin turbo Brembo brakes on his 240SX, and he just needed that 1 mm to clear the wheels. Worked like a charm.
you're sporting McPherson struts for one thing, and the DC2 gen uses a double wishbone configuration
It might be possible to do so, but it'd probably cost alot $$
Your best bet is to get some RSX Type S suspension, but at this point in time, the Type S suspension is like finding a needle in a haystack
19-Nov-2002, 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by ryuujin
It might be possible to do so, but it'd probably cost alot $$ Your best bet is to get some RSX Type S suspension, but at this point in time, the Type S suspension is like finding a needle in a haystack
It might be possible to do so, but it'd probably cost alot $$
Your best bet is to get some RSX Type S suspension, but at this point in time, the Type S suspension is like finding a needle in a haystack
I'm thinking of going SSR. So SSR rims are really stiff and really light. And look really cool?
Cuz I want something that's a bang for my buck. And I'm not a curb eater. I've never scratched up any of my rims before.
19-Nov-2002, 04:10 PM
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If you're looking for an excellent quality wheel, SSR is the choice. However, if you're looking for value, you're wayyyyyy off. Expect to pay about $700 or so each for the SSR Competitions in 17".
If you want value, look at Rota's or the Konig's mentioned earlier. They are pretty light, cheap, and pretty good quality.
If you want value, look at Rota's or the Konig's mentioned earlier. They are pretty light, cheap, and pretty good quality.
Originally posted by NoSpleeny
Unless you go buy it outright from the dealer.
I'm thinking of going SSR. So SSR rims are really stiff and really light. And look really cool?
Cuz I want something that's a bang for my buck. And I'm not a curb eater. I've never scratched up any of my rims before.
Unless you go buy it outright from the dealer.
I'm thinking of going SSR. So SSR rims are really stiff and really light. And look really cool?
Cuz I want something that's a bang for my buck. And I'm not a curb eater. I've never scratched up any of my rims before.
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