There is a member selling B16+GSR tranny for a really good price. Well below 2G. But I am not sure what else comes with it. But that's a good start if you are serious about going through with it.

There is someone selling a B16 installed for $2500, he's on clubel as well el_loco, not sure if he still has it or not.

Also, Scott Newman can do the engine install cheaper then a shop, so i'd pm him as well. B18 is 140hp (13 more) and 127 torque (20 more) so really, is $2000 or $2500 worth 13 more hp and 20 more torque?

Your engine is going, so a rebuild and adding some toys for the same money will give very close to B18B results.

I'd just throw in another D16 or save up till you get $3000-$3500 and do the legit B16 swap

like everyone has been saying, the b18b/b16/ or b20 would all be good swaps but maybe check into the d15b aswell..

thought abt the d15 swap. they're goin for 1500. ls motor i can get for around 2g's
no point in rebuildin the d16 . cost the same or more than buyin a new d16 block.
now i gotta decide between b16 and ls motor

rebuilt the d16, it'll be fresh and new..... start from ZERO km... add a lil toys and fun to it... it'll get you to something like a b16 in terms of power....... maybe 140-150whp and 120-130wtq

rebuilding is not a bad thing...... it becomes a fresh motor...
or if u wish, just find a d16 motor...... u dun need the d-series tranny since u have it already... call around junkyards, call tek, and call around other motor shops too....... get a compression and leakdown test... but again, whatever you get, you would still have to do some basic tune ups like replace the timing belt, waterpup, seals, gaskets... so why not just rebuild ur current engine with new parts, and throw in some toys like a better camshaft, pistons, rods, springs, port and polish, etc. you will squeeze more power and still be reliable... and as long as you don't raise the compression, you don't have to run premium gas...

again, i agree with the person (brian) from the previous posts that it all comes down to what you want.... you can take all our opinions, but you shouldn't follow what we say... its your car, you're driving it, its you're money, you're spending it... so you should decide what's the best for yourself........

well a cam, slugs, rods, valve springs and p'n'p will be well over $2000. Not to mention the cost of the rebuild and tuning.
Why would you do all of the above mentioned and not raise the compression? In order to get anywhere near your goal it will have to be a fully built race engine and will cost well over $5000 in parts and machine work just to the engine and has the potential to be a very tempermental little biatch.
If you ask me, if you have 2G's to spend on your car to make it more fun to drive go buy new springs/shocks, sway bars (front and rear), new bushings (not all of them just the rear LCA bushings you WILL need), and strut tower braces front and back and still have a little left over to put away for some sticky tires for the summer.
If your going to do a swap or build an engine DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME!!! Which also unfortunately mean its expensive, much more than 2G's.

:nods:

Basically, in the realm of today's standard and tuning prices, 2000 dollars won't last you too long. It will if you can do everything on your own and really work around the budget. (Like JC's Civic 4dr project)

Excellent advice, I have stock D16Y8 in my EL (192,000 and counting), but with good suspension and 22mm rear sway bar with great tires, its wicked fun to drive in the summer. $2000 - $1000 rebuild (guessing $1000, not sure though) = $1000 for good suspension or toys for D16Y8 (cam and valve springs or I/E/H). Lots of options in that realm, Buddy Club N+ is $1399 from optionjdm.com (i'm waiting to rock BC Racing-Spec myself for spring), Tein SS or Flex, GC/Koni...many options in or around 1G.

Seems especially true with Honda, a swap is like $3500 for B16 installed usually, B18C is like $5000 installed and started, B18C5 is like what $6000-$6500 installed and started...its so much money for anywhere near 190hp, thats why i just use and abuse my lowly D16Y8....cheaper to rebuild and abuse fresh :drivesafe

oh, for tires, Falken Azeni RT-615 or Hankook R-S2 Z212 = hella fun and amazing grip unlike any other normal summer tire (meaning Toyo Proxes 4, Yoko ES100, etc)

Stock b18c5's make like 160-170whp if its a healty engine. But who's got an ITR engine and doesn't beat the crap out of it?
And to get that out of a b16 all you need is a set of good cams and matching valve train, bolt on's and maybe a little porting/valve job and some good tuning, which you could do for less than $6000 even with the price of the swap and labour.


Azeni's are sick tires, but IMO they don't last long enough for every day driving. But totally worth every penny.

agree!! :nods:

in fact that's what i'll plan to do... work on my suspension... very important... haha...

But you guys are losing site of the fact that I need a ANOTHER motor!! I would love to drop a grand on suspension but I need to address the problem of my dying motor. engines are way too over priced now. if i sold my car it wud be worth like 7500 add the cost of a b16 (3500) and i got 11,000... I cud buy a newer GSR or a SiR with that kind of money.

Just get it rebuild then.

u can find motors legit with paperwork for pretty good prices. if you want one with a warranty, expect to pay more at teknotiq. most people that sell it should be able to show you the running condition of it before hand or offer at least a written guarantee that it runs. IMO, if it runs fine, no need to spend like 1000-1500 more for one that comes with a warranty. If anything goes wrong, i'm sure it will be less then 1500 to fix!

I AM SELLING A B18B COMPLETE IN THE CLASSIFIEDS!!!!!
$2000.00

lol....
no install but its complete to the MAXXX.
comes with everything needed to do the swap into your car. dont need anything else.
Check it out. type in B18B or Team Rukus in the search section in the classifieds and you will see all the details.
THIS IS THE CHEAPEST YOU WILL FIND IT. I have the entire car aswell so i can prove that its not no stolen crap or anything either. Pm me if you want.
I can also do the install for you if you want.

I dont know about now but when i got my b16a 1st gen motor back in 98, i paid 1600 from Lucky Star on Ingram and Keele. The motor is still running strong up to today. I did replace the tranny once tho. Give them a call and ask for a qoute. Isnt 2500 for the 2nd gen and 1600 for the 1st gen b16s? Am i correct or am i getting old lol?

oh forgot to mention 2 grand flat!!!!!!! perfect for your budget.

thats cuz its a first gen b16a those motors are like zc's lol. and i believe yours probably came with a cable tranny

Yeah i did come with a cable tranny but i since replaced it with a lsd tranny but still cable...He did say he wanted it for under 2gs tho

they might be like zc's but i did do a 14.8 stock back than so cable or hydro it doesnt bother me. As long as it moves im happy with it