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1sykcoupe 11-Dec-2005 11:04 PM

$2000 Engine?
 
Hey guys, I got a 98 ek si . Everyone knows you can get a d16 for well under $2000. BUt i was wondering if anyone knows a place where I can get a nicer enginer for around $2000. Anyone know any places where b16's complete install would be around 2g's? anyways keep in mine its goin into a si soo i dont know if i would need a nother tranny for a b16 etc.
anyways... plz help me with your oppions!:cheers:

chris_si98 11-Dec-2005 11:07 PM

Teknotik is the place to call.

You can get a b18b or a b20 for under $2000.

B16a2's go for around 2600-2800$.

Cantonagod 11-Dec-2005 11:07 PM

I don't know of any legit place where you can get any B series engine for $2000.
Also you would need to change your tranny.

Nova_Dust 11-Dec-2005 11:10 PM

A complete engine+ B16 tranny, with installation and all other necessary parts will be more than 2G for sure. You are looking at almost double of that amount.

1sykcoupe 11-Dec-2005 11:29 PM

b18 is the integra gs motor rite?
wats the b20?

imported_Cablerat 11-Dec-2005 11:29 PM

b20 is the honda CRV engine

Double_B 11-Dec-2005 11:30 PM


Originally posted by Nova_Dust
A complete engine+ B16 tranny, with installation and all other necessary parts will be more than 2G for sure. You are looking at almost double of that amount.

:nods:

And if you do get a b16 for 2 g's and installed, don't be surprised if you have problems later on.

chris_si98 11-Dec-2005 11:31 PM

b18b is the gs, ls and rs, I believe.

b20 are in crv's. They are 2.0L opposed to the b18b's 1.8L. Both are non-vtec

chris_si98 11-Dec-2005 11:32 PM


Originally posted by Double_B



:nods:

And if you do get a b16 for 2 g's and installed, don't be surprised if you have problems later on.

or if its stolen lol

zeeman 12-Dec-2005 12:07 AM

there's someone selling a b16 swap for $2000 in the classifieds right now, comes with everything you would need.
And look to spend anywhere between $500-1000 for install.

1sykcoupe 12-Dec-2005 12:14 AM

How do you know if it's stolen. U can go to a shop and still be buying a stolen motor for 4g. If you buy a stolen motor can u get in ****?
do you guys think i'm better off buying a stock d16 and modding the hell out of that???!

imported_2join performance 12-Dec-2005 01:11 AM

Dont you have a d16 in your car?
Anyways, it depends on how much power you plan to make, but personally if i was aiming for 250-300hp tops, i would just stick with a d16. Any more and you will probably be better off with a b-series.

1sykcoupe 12-Dec-2005 02:23 AM

my motors done. burns too much oil

imported_t_dot_SiR 12-Dec-2005 02:32 AM

it seems like you don't have a clear direction of what you want or where you want to go yet... just a 2 cents, you should lay down a plan, list out your goals, do some research of the b16,b18,d16 and what you can do with those motors and how much do they usually go for.....

and for 2gs... it ain't gonna get you a decent b-series complete with installation... the installing at cheapest and best would cost you 600-800 for sure... unless you do it yourself!
a stock b16a will cost you around 2400-2800 for a decent one from a reliable supplier...... so u'll be looking about about 3000-3500 at best for sure! and for a b18, you're probably looking for about 2500 intalled? not too sure, but you can get a b18b with the ls tranny for somewhere below 2g, but then the installation again will be more than 500.... u'll probably have more fun with the 10-15 extra torque in the b18b or b20 than the b16 tho... but u'll lack the top

if you have 2g to spend and since you drive a 98 si, u should have a d16y8 motor... a d-series is actually not a bad motor to build if you research around and see what some of the d-series lovers have done and achieve... its not unrealistic to build a d-series to the same power or a bit more than a "stock" b16 with 2g

if you decide to build your d16, you can actually talk to some of our affiliates for advice and get some quotes... such as working for the block to the head...

and in terms of tranny, d-series engine uses d-series tranny, so you cannot slap a d-series tranny onto a b-series motor, it wouldn't work...

good luck...

1sykcoupe 12-Dec-2005 10:02 AM

thanks for everyone's input. its helping. My d16 is done though, I don't know how much longer it's going to last. If i do decide to keep the motor i would have to rebuild it. and if i go to rebuild it, its cheaper to buy a new d16.
I don't want crazy amount of horsepower, just someting decent. I would like to be close to 200 hp . My d16 dyno'd at 103whp so anything i get would be better. Right now I'm trying to decide between the b18 ls motor and the b16 sir motor. I saw on teknotik's site that a b16 out of a sir(92-95) is 900 and 2600 with installation i believe. the b18 ls motor is about 2500 installed... I think.
I'm waiitng on eric to reply back with a quote

Double_B 12-Dec-2005 10:09 AM


Originally posted by 1sykcoupe
thanks for everyone's input. its helping. My d16 is done though, I don't know how much longer it's going to last. If i do decide to keep the motor i would have to rebuild it. and if i go to rebuild it, its cheaper to buy a new d16.
I don't want crazy amount of horsepower, just someting decent. I would like to be close to 200 hp . My d16 dyno'd at 103whp so anything i get would be better. Right now I'm trying to decide between the b18 ls motor and the b16 sir motor. I saw on teknotik's site that a b16 out of a sir(92-95) is 900 and 2600 with installation i believe. the b18 ls motor is about 2500 installed... I think.
I'm waiitng on eric to reply back with a quote


Look again. The engine alone is I believe 900, but with tranny, mounts axles etc, it comes out to 2600. Add 1000 to that for install. Also, the 2600 is before taxes.

If you plan on switching to a B engine, any one of them would be better than your D. I just had mine done in October and I got a B16. Trust me, I went from B16 to B20 to B18 back to B16. No matter what anybody says, bottom line, the decision is yours and yours only. You are the one that will have to dish out the money and you have to decide what do you want with this swap. I went with the b16 basically because it was a pretty straight foward swap. I also got a total tune up done on it with timing belt, plugs, wires, water pump, changed the clutch and fuel filter. Those are other things you have to consider. It's not cheap, but in the end, I have a much better engine that will last me longer than a D and I have more power than I had before. The other thing you have to remember, with any of the vtec B series engines, you have to use premium gas, with the non vtec, you can use any gas.


Hope this helps you some more with your decision. You can get all the opinions you want, but your best bet is to do more research, like lots (that's what I did) and make your desicion on what you think would suite you best as well as fun factor, lets face it, if it was just for you to commute from point a to b, you wouldn't give a **** what engine went in and stay with the D


Happy hunting!

:cheers:

imported_Mischev 12-Dec-2005 10:15 AM


Originally posted by Double_B
The other thing you have to remember, with any of the vtec B series engines, you have to use premium gas, with the non vtec, you can use any gas.


:cheers:

but you can get it tuned to accept cheaper gas, but u wont be going as fast i guess

imported_Cablerat 12-Dec-2005 10:19 AM

call some other shops too.
teknotiks prices are actually pretty expensive.

Tiger Japan in scarborough sells much cheaper. I've bought like 4 engines from them and never had a problem.

Double_B 12-Dec-2005 10:22 AM


Originally posted by Mischev


but you can get it tuned to accept cheaper gas, but u wont be going as fast i guess

You can talk tune, change this change that, but I believe he is looking just to change the engine period. If I understand his post right, he is not looking to get heavily into tuning and changing things up.


Again, my suggestion to you is to do your research, see if this is what you really want. If there is nothing wrong with your D, keep it until either

a) you can afford to do the swap
b) your engine goes.


You are going to get tons of opinions here and you will be more confused on what you want to do than you were when you first asked your question. Sit down, write up all the pros and cons from all the info you gathered, including from this post and see what is best for you. No matter what, everyone here will give you a different answer, then the whole, you can do this with it after or that with it later on will come into play. Right now you need to figure out what you want to do, not what everyone else wants you to do.

Gunmetalef 12-Dec-2005 02:45 PM

if you look hard enough you could probrobly find a b16a2 with the sway for prob 2700 maybe less


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