zeeman

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I bet you mugen power has built more engines than all of you guys combined (not trying to start a pissing match, just trying to show his experience with this stuff).

I think what he was saying is that to do the k-swap, then build the engine the way that one (from the dyno graph he posted) cost at least $12,000. Pistons, cams, custom header, ITB's, K-pro, super high compression....even if the K was already in the it would have still cost a buttload to make that kind of power.

Of course a larger displacement engine, with newer technology is gunna make more power reliably than a 10 year old engine with almost a .5L less displacement.

Yo, my 350ci chevy small block makes way more power than your K-swap and it cost half the price....lol.

We're not saying a K-swap is costing $12,000 (you'd have to be a gigantic toolbox to pay that kinda coin), we're saying when you do a K-swap then build it to make 250+whp its gunna cost at least $12,000.

K's are great engines, but still quite expensive to swap into older chassis'.

saugaboi

k's over rated.

RadEp3

k = more power than a b16, more torque than a b16.

zeeman

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i'd sure as hell hope so. Considering you comparing a 2-2.4L to a 1.6L.

Trybal

K swap = Over-rated, expensive

A proper turbo set-up on a B = more than you would expect for the same price

Plus, when you have B mounts you have a number of options for engines. B engines are cheaper to buy and cheaper to build.

RadEp3

every other person has a b16 engine under the hood of their car. its not so special anymore.

zeeman

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and K-swaps are?

Man, search honda-tech and other local forums....tonnes of people have K-swaps, they're nothing special anymore either.

Trybal

I know that. I ran past the budget. You can pay for my next b20 build or turbo setup...

hmongsouljah

I said b-series turbo.. hey what do u guys think about b18c5 turbo?...a type-r motor?

JDMSPIC

i have decided to stick with the b series swap boost it , hope fully go ls -vtec but still deciding if i should go b20 block or ls ? what you guys think?

bby3h

MAN pretty sure Zeeman is not hating on K-series guys!!! Zeeman knows his stuff he tuned my friend's black sir with type r motor!! he is just stating that it would be cheaper to go b series turbo then k series!!!!! don't you guys look at the OP "K20 vs turbo B-series" he is just stating the truth and which motor is better for the guy that made up this post!!!! take it eZ!! k-series ppl stop...we know K is better in all aspect but just money wise its still costing quite a penny for the swap!!! Zeeman just thinks it is over rated (just an opinion) if you don't think so then leave it!! don't get hyped up over it!!!

Trybal

What engine do you have installed at the momento?

What is your budget?

JDMSPIC

its a sohc (zc) vtec motor with lsd tranny and i thik about 2 500 - 3 000

Trybal

So you have D-series mount....it will cost about $600 to purchase and install B-series mounts, plus i highly suggest solid poly urethane bushings. Save your money for now.

A turbo'd B16 without any internal mods will cost around 8g's installed and put down around 250whp at 8-10psi max. That's a used B16 with a new turbo, piping, intercooler, bov, etc.

JDMSPIC

is a b20 block bad for boosting though because i wanted to do an ls vtec or frankie , i dont like b16's

RadEp3

i havent met a person with a k20 swap....and i know a couple of ppl who have b16's. im not hating man. the b series is a very respectable powerplant.
but so is the k series.

RadEp3

maybe if you had a better way of managing your money, your budget would be more expandable.

Trybal

Dude, you have no idea of what i have done to my civic.

Such ignorance of your statement should be abolished.

How about you tell everyone what i have had upgraded....

RadEp3

i have found your statement a little ignorant too. pay for your build?
nah b. just chill. its all good.

T-MacK

Hate to tell you guys both, but there's nothing really special about Hondas anymore. lol.