gavin.p89

LOL well said ^^^

KnightX

how many of them ever see the road..
its winter time and i know 3 ppl in the GTA alone still drives their EG6 around... but my 2 friend's NSX has been parked since end of Oct

jdmcivic

its not my problem that they are garage beauty queens, what they cant put some winter and drive them, mid engine i bet it will go better then my civic in snow.

well thanks to all the flamers this thread is useless, its a good thing its a civic forum and not a NSX, some seem to have taken the comment too personally. lol, its all fun, i guess others beside me have nothing else to do at work or home...

Thanks to those who stayed on topic and provided feed back.. so basically only ITR stuff will provide better performance as a bolt on. i thought maybe some of the GSR or Prelude stuff will work since chances of their parts being found in Junk yard are better but i guess i have to keep and eye out for ITR parts.

sir_crx

Get a bigger better engine lol

birdie92k

I'm one of those 3 Spence? Better be...

That's what I'm doing with mine. I'm going b18c5 swap. I have it already but I just need my B16 to sell. Then I'm going K swap.

KnightX

yes u r.... lol

ol Dusty

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welcome to the tcc. there's a few people on here like civctardej1 who I don't think actually read the OP they just like to say to much all the time and never actually have a relivant thought. I think Zeeman said pretty much everything you needed to know after that this thread is bs and should be closed. the only thing I think he missed and only because he's thinking what can you add?, is what can you take away? just like this thread is contaminated with some bs so is a stock setup car. Zee kinda hit on this and so did a few others but tuning will unlock some hidden horeses but also you could shave some weight. I don't know if an itr flywheel would help but I have a light weight flywheel in my eg, it's only a d16 but I really like the improvement I got outta it. I don't think you should be against aftermarket parts for your Honda but just make sure your buy quality parts not ebay garbage. most well known names got to be that way for a reason. some may be over hyped but ask around and find out who's who.

zeeman

iTrader: (1)

ol Dusty makes some good points.

GSR parts will fit a b16, but not the intake manifold, they're different. I'd be more inclined to use ITR cams/valvetrain over the GSR stuff b/c the GSR cams are only slightly bigger than b16s and the valvetrain is the same. Prelude stuff (h-series parts) is NOT interchangeable with b-series parts.

A good clutch and light weight flywheel is definately worth the money, it won't net any more power, but it'll help the power get put to the ground. A lighter flywheel will help the engine rev a little faster (due to less rotating weight) but be prepared for the RPMs to fall faster when shifting to pressing the clutch pedal in (for every action there is a reaction).

I'm not gunna close this thread, but try to keep it on topic guys, the OP is genuinely looking for advice/help.

TRex

Never heard anyone talk about it, but can you get some gains from porting a stock TB and porting the opeining of the IM to match. Or is it best to just buy ITR components. I have a 2g dsm and we use porting to squeeze some extra horses and that type of work can be done at home if you got a few tools.

civicEJ1

iTrader: (2)

yah more of that ^ less of >>"...welcome to the tcc. there's a few people on here like civctardej1 who I don't think actually read the OP they just like to say to much all the time and never actually have a relivant thought."

zeeman

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Yes, i've been using a bored stock b16 throttle body for like 5 years now. Its been bored out 4mm (thats the max you can go, i believe) to a total of 64mm.
Doing such a mofication will be useless without opening up the opening of the IM to whatever size you're throttle body is.
I don't know about doing this work at home, b/c as you bore the throttle body out larger, you NEED to make a new throttle plate (butterfly) to match the new diameter of your throttle body bore, otherwise it won't seal properly (since the bore is larger than the plate there will be a leak around the plate) and your car will idle crazy high.

TRex

So it would make more sense to buy an ITR TB and then bore the stock IM to match the new TB.
Would this unlock any power without a refreshed tune?

zeeman

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without tuning....maybe, but don't expect a whole lot, even if you tune it. If the engine can't make use of the additional air coming in (from the larger t/b) then it won't make any more power.
I noticed slightly better throttle respone after swapping out the stock t/b for the 64mm unit.

Midnight-Bullet

the amount of money you put into a b16 whether it be after market or type r parts, you're just wasting money to get from 160 to 200 IF you're lucky. you can slap on a whole type r head but that doesn't mean it's a type r, going to perform like a type r, and will output type r power. you're better off selling your b16 and buy an r motor complete.

rascles

booooooost

Peronim

I would like to rephrase that...."Since a lot of people steal ITR guys cars" LOL

rascles

**** theives ! broke asses cant even afford a honda

EKFresh

Umm... because u can make power on the itr parts thats why ... and MOST of the time its cheaper to to what zeeman said instead of going out and buying sk2 stg1 cams or w/e

alphaq69

everything zeeman said would be a good idea. whether it's itr cams or the itr i.m whatever it is.. should make some power in your b16.

if you really want to make some good power and really feel your car. just swap out the bottom end to a b20. at the end of the day.. it's all about how much money you want to spend on the thing.

zeeman knows how much money i spent on the budget build. and zeeman has also seen the b20vtec in action.. hell if u didnt want to spend the money.. i would just swap the whole b16 longblock for a b20.. ive ran faster times in stock b20bs egs/efs/das than stock b16 cars... with b16 trannys of course lol

SloHatch.95

^If only it were that easy but at the same time you mentioned money. It isn't cheap to just swap the bottom end. The B16 is the most reliable engine but lacks torque of course. I'd do what zeeman said. You could possibly put a turbo kit on there but you also mentioned it to be a winter car. All depends how deep your pocket is.