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Old 19-Apr-2010, 01:46 PM
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it was the bottom we did a recent tune up and what not and i think i get about 300km a tank now...still a bit low i guess that's because of the cat...
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Don't forget, honda fuel gauges show the bottom half of the tank consuming faster.
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mhm but i have the trip reset each time i fill up the tank full...so it gets about 300 sometimes a little less
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still pretty bad...
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Old 19-Apr-2010, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SWstriker17
mhm but i have the trip reset each time i fill up the tank full...so it gets about 300 sometimes a little less
How agressive of a driver are you?
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not an aggressive driver at all...in fact i try not to waste gas by not using any heat or idling...
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Old 19-Apr-2010, 04:02 PM
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you should be getting close to double that, easy.
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yeah i am waiting to save up for a cat and then drop it in there and see the difference i really need one because u can smell the fumes
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Old 19-Apr-2010, 04:05 PM
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If you have a crack in the catalytic converter , why not just replace it?

It sounds to me that you already know what the main problem is , you just need to replace ( you ll have to do it sooner or later anyways) and then If you are still getiing bad mileage you can start replacing other parts

Replace your cat first

I can think of two other things making your car run poor

Fuel Pressure Regulator Failure Symptoms:
Engine runs rough
Engine stumbles or sputters
Engine runs very rich - black smoke from the exhaust
Engine will not start
Engine starts but stalls shortly after startup
Noisy fuel pump
Noticeable decrease in fuel mileage

and maybe the thermostat

But i wouldnt change any of those above until i get my cat fix ..
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Your car has 11.9 US Gal fuel tank. At 30mpg (low fuel mileage for that car given 12 years old; new is 29-36mpg) you should be getting close to 357 miles = roughly 570kms per tank. Best bet is change the cat and see from there....but I doubt it will make that much difference.
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Old 19-Apr-2010, 04:28 PM
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It makes sense to me. It is possible the exhaust is leaking out giving an improper lean reading, causing the ecu to compensate, making it run much too rich. I'm surprised there is no CEL...
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Just for shi**s and giggles, if I was you I would pull the spark plugs (which you said you recently changed) and have a look at them. If your engine is not running properly or your fuel/air mixture is off, they will tell you.
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yeah i will do that tomorrow and see...what should i look for? should it just be dirty?
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Bad 02 sensor?
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nope i got all of them checked and replaced...it has to be the cat but i mean there's a big difference between the mileage i should be getting and the mileage i am getting...don't know if the cat will make the whole difference
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White = Lean
Brown = Normal
Black = Rich
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Old 19-Apr-2010, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SWstriker17
nope i got all of them checked and replaced...it has to be the cat but i mean there's a big difference between the mileage i should be getting and the mileage i am getting...don't know if the cat will make the whole difference
I think that the cat could very well be your main issue with fuel consumption.

If the O2 is constantly getting a false reading, a lean reading (since your exhaust is leaking out so it can't get a proper sample to read), then the ecu will try to compensate until it gets the proper reading. It's probably dumping loads of fuel in to compensate.

Even if you welded up the crack/hole in the cat/manifold as a temporary fix, I bet you'd see a significant reduction in fuel consumption.
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see the crack is right by the bolt....u can see it...i dont know if its possible to weld it there...
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Don't try to weld up that crack...
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