D.T.P

Well I jumped the wires with a clip, and cel stayed on. I read somewhere that if it stays on, that means there is an ecu error. Not sure...guess ill double check ecu ground later today.

ol Dusty

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I don't know how often you make it out to richmond hill martin but I'm working at RH Honda now, not that shitty chop shop in rexdale anymore. gimmie a shout and maybe we can meet up somewhere, I'm off tomorrow and this weekend, at the very least we can put my ecu into your car and try that. I'm not a betting man but I bet your problem is fuel delivery and how often do you hear about guys saying there injectors crapped out? the relay your talking about I'd like to look at too, cuz it's possible that when it heats up the expansion is keeping something loose together but when it's cold and you do something like say take an on-ramp with some spirit, it cuts out for a sec, your car sputters and then next thing you know your here asking bout your car again

D.T.P

Yo Dustin, ill let you. I live in maple now, so its close to me. Ill give you a call for sure.

EKproject

i would say start with o2 sensor..and hope its not yourt cat plugged..thats what happened with mine...my cat plugged up and would bog down..would get bit better as it got warm..smthn u can try is take out your o2 sensor that is pre-cat..it will be VERY loud..but take for a quick rip..if it seems like you have more power..then it is your cat

D.T.P

^^
Um I have changed the o2 as I stated and my cat is good.

FPMotorsports

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FPMotorsports

I would take car to Zeeman @ Tag.
He will be able to figure out the issue, if it happens in that time span that is.
I would sell your chipped ecu and put in a stock p28 ecu...or c zeeman for a stock p28 program. Then if it still acts up I would look into your dizzy.

seanv98

^^ I agree, however, you might need to take it there early and then let the car sit for a while to cool down so you can replicate the problem.

chris_v2

Have you tried doing a cylinder balance test while the engine is acting up Martin?

Do this by unplugging one injector at a time, the engine should bog down or stall everytime you unplug an injector. If nothing happens when you unplug an injector, then you have isolated a dead cylinder.

chris_v2

Oh, or do what every TCC member says and replace the oxygen sensor LOL.

D.T.P

So I replaced the o2 sensor and it did not help the bogging other than the advantage in higher mpg lol.
I pulled plug wires one by one, and every time it died out except number 4 it didn't die down as much, but I did it again after and it was equivalent like all other ones, not sure. Also I noticed that the cap for dizzy cracked where one bolt goes through. I pulled it off and I had some dirt inside of it. Not on contacts but on the side, on the wall. So ill get another one, I guess it could be moisture.

chris_v2

That is true. It could be moisture build-up from when it sits.

Is it worse on rainy mornings?

D.T.P

well i fail at life and should write this at FML lol
i went to part source got a cap...decided to change it in the parking lot and as i was pulling #4 wire, the connector broke of the wire...WTF?! so now i have a brand new cap...and brand new bosch wires and it still bogs. so what has been changed:
-plugs/wires
-cap/rotar
-fuel filter
-o2 sensor
btw chris_v2 you have a pm

D.T.P

Btw failed to mention one thing which may be related. Once the bogging started, which was very minor and unnoticible, the tach started lagging and jumping around a little. Now that the bogging has gotten much worst, the tach needle is all over the place under heavier acceleration. Although when decelerating, it stays smooth.
Not sure if this could be related, to some sensor problem, or just a coincidence. Since when I don't feel any hesitation from the car, the tach is still messed.

zeeman

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i'm gunna say dizzy

usually when the dizzy starts to go, the tach does weird ****. I've seen dizzys cause the tach to not work at all, replace the dizzy and bam the tach works again.

Take those bosch wires OFF your honda and get some NGK....nothing bosch belongs on a honda IMO.

D.T.P

^^ yeah I'm gonna order some ngk's but they had bosch and champion. No ngk in stock. Also to prove that bosch is crap, as I was driving down a street, one wire of cap popped off and caused me to run on 3 cyls. My brother back in the day had bosch wires for a bit, and they would come off every 10 minutes lol. So to everybody who may read this, stay away from them.
Well now about the dizzy, I will be picking one up on Friday, and hopefully its gonna fix the problem. Just had a quick question about its replacement, do I have to get timing done after replacing it? Or will the rotor stay in the same position? Because its just couple of bolts[3] holding it in place correct? I wouldn't mind saving couple of bucks and do it myself. If timing must be done, how close can I get it without actually using a timing gun so I could drive it down to a shop and get the timing done?
Thanks again everybody.

seanv98

Bring the motor to TDC before you remove it, and take note of how things look and where they are lined up to. The dizzy only goes on one way, so as long as you haven't touched the crank you should be pretty close. When the motor is at TDC the rotor will be pointing at the number one plug wire connecter. Line everything back up on the new one, and you should be pretty close. Your timing will have to checked for sure though. Also if the new dizzy doesn't come with one, make sure you get a new o-ring, and when you take the old one out, have a rag handy as some oil may come out.

ol Dusty

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hey martin I cam't help but notice a couple double posts in here... including yours. so or you just gonna fall on your sword or does a stick man have to kick your skull off?

I think I have a dizzy but it's on a motor I have stored in oakville, not very convient for either of us. I mentioned AJ but I bet Cookstowns got several and it's allways fun to go hunting up there at 89 and 400 to see whats new in the dead honda section they have. I almost impaled myself there once but I still like to go there for things like dizzy's

D.T.P

Well Dustin I'm not sure what you mean in first paragraph. And also I talked to Steve and he has a dizzy for me. Now my concern is, do I have to do timing after I replace the dizzy or will it only go back on 1 way and remain at same timing position.

seanv98

It only goes on one way, but you should still check the timing.