d16 head question
#6
well i know someone that has a b18 bottom and h22 head but he had to send it to California to get it machined and what not. I would have to do the samething if i wanted to change it ? or it would be better to swap the engine completely ?
#8
maybe an h22 engine to a b18 transmission.. H2b adaptor
yes it would be better to swap the entire engine. If fact, it is your only option if you want DOHC.
Also just to give you the answer to your next question if you change the engine you also have to change all the engine dressings (intake manifold, exhaust manifold, distributor ect..) transmission, axles, motor mounts, shift linkage, ECU or chip it. which in total CAN cost 2000-7000$ depending on the motor.
yes it would be better to swap the entire engine. If fact, it is your only option if you want DOHC.
Also just to give you the answer to your next question if you change the engine you also have to change all the engine dressings (intake manifold, exhaust manifold, distributor ect..) transmission, axles, motor mounts, shift linkage, ECU or chip it. which in total CAN cost 2000-7000$ depending on the motor.
Last edited by Midori; 06-Apr-2009 at 06:46 PM.
#11
I wouldn't generalize like that.
Stock for stock a turbo B-series (DOHC...VTEC or not) would be better than a stock D-series (SOHC....VTEC or not) because the B-series engines are stronger than the D-series and can safely handle more WHP in stock form.
Now if its DOHC you're after and not necessarily swapping out to a b-series or h-series engine you can use the DOHC ZC engine, its technically a d-series and will bolt up to your stock tranny.
I have however tuned a SOHC that makes more power than most of DOHC's around here. This is why I say don't generalize. The $$$ it cost to build the SOHC capable of handling 400whp/335wtq was definately less than swapping to a B-series engine. So I wouldn't say a turbo DOHC would be better than a turbo SOHC
Stock for stock a turbo B-series (DOHC...VTEC or not) would be better than a stock D-series (SOHC....VTEC or not) because the B-series engines are stronger than the D-series and can safely handle more WHP in stock form.
Now if its DOHC you're after and not necessarily swapping out to a b-series or h-series engine you can use the DOHC ZC engine, its technically a d-series and will bolt up to your stock tranny.
I have however tuned a SOHC that makes more power than most of DOHC's around here. This is why I say don't generalize. The $$$ it cost to build the SOHC capable of handling 400whp/335wtq was definately less than swapping to a B-series engine. So I wouldn't say a turbo DOHC would be better than a turbo SOHC
#12
alright so instead of swapping I should just change internals such as valves, lifters, pistons and all that and turbo it and come out with some power that can challenge b series and h series engines maybe even k series ?
#19
thats just parts to build an vitara piston/eagle rod d-series capable of handing that much boost.
A new brand name turbo kit will cost $3000-5000 alone. If you buy a used kit you can get it cheaper or if you peice a kit together it'll be cheaper.
A budget of $3000 for a boosted setup can be tight.
Heres a quick breakdown of the prices (roughly)
turbo kit $1000-4000 (depends if you buy used, homemade stylez or a nice new kit)
injectors $100-400 (depends if you buy used DSM 450ccs or some new RC or Precision)
fuel pump $120 (walbro 255lph)
tuning $500-1000 (you may need an ecu conversion harness and/or chipped obd1 ecu)
You'll also need an upgraded clutch to handle the extra power your engine will make. This might not be necessary right off the bat, but trust me, if you're using a stock clutch or something with a fair amount of mileage on it, you'll be replacing it after a short while.
As for labour, you're looking at $700-1500 depending on where you go and how much fabrication is needed to make everything work properly.
A new brand name turbo kit will cost $3000-5000 alone. If you buy a used kit you can get it cheaper or if you peice a kit together it'll be cheaper.
A budget of $3000 for a boosted setup can be tight.
Heres a quick breakdown of the prices (roughly)
turbo kit $1000-4000 (depends if you buy used, homemade stylez or a nice new kit)
injectors $100-400 (depends if you buy used DSM 450ccs or some new RC or Precision)
fuel pump $120 (walbro 255lph)
tuning $500-1000 (you may need an ecu conversion harness and/or chipped obd1 ecu)
You'll also need an upgraded clutch to handle the extra power your engine will make. This might not be necessary right off the bat, but trust me, if you're using a stock clutch or something with a fair amount of mileage on it, you'll be replacing it after a short while.
As for labour, you're looking at $700-1500 depending on where you go and how much fabrication is needed to make everything work properly.
#20
not to thread jack, but andrew whats your take on the y8 oil pump, im debating weither to get an oem, port and shim it, or get a toga HV pump. I have heard mixed things about toga though.
(not just zeeman but anyone can give some input)
(not just zeeman but anyone can give some input)