D16 to B16?
30-Dec-2008, 09:02 PM
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ya, i'd like to see bwek race vivik's b16 EF. I guarantee the y7 will loose by more than a half a car (no offense bwek), I know that won't ever happen due to bwek's y7 tossin a rod through the block.
03-Jan-2009, 05:44 AM
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Question, I'm looking at some clutches online ebay right now, and they have Exedy OEM replacement + fidanza 7lb flywheel for approx $250.... with that combination, would it make sense? or should i still look for a stage 1 clutch and add a flywheel?
The stage 1 organic clutch by itself is approx $300, and to add a flywheel is approx $160. So i'm looking at $200 difference in total. In changing my stock clutch, would a Exedy stage 1 feel totally different than an Exedy OEM replacement?
The stage 1 organic clutch by itself is approx $300, and to add a flywheel is approx $160. So i'm looking at $200 difference in total. In changing my stock clutch, would a Exedy stage 1 feel totally different than an Exedy OEM replacement?
09-Jan-2009, 04:52 AM
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Honestly A b16 is not that fast My old d16y7 (rip) would only lose by half a car length in a race
A d15b with a turbo would be much more fun and much easier to source parts and if you wanted to turn up the boost you don't have to wrecking that nice b16
but then again it comes down to budget A D15b lsd tranny is about $300 a B16 lsd is about $1000.00 (this doesn't incude special deals this is everyday pricing if you were to need it asap)
but the power potential is much higher with a B16
but a boosted D is way faster than a stock B16
the motor swap is easy to put in it's almost a no brainer if you can do your brakes you can do a swap there is more than enough info on Honda-tech on doing it
If you need a hand with the wiring shoot me a Pm if I were you and i had a garage I would do it in a heartbeat it's something that will give you so much insight into how your car works
you only need a basic metric toolset + a 32mm socket and good breaker bar + An engine hoist
it's worth saving the labour cost and putting that into a performance mod
A d15b with a turbo would be much more fun and much easier to source parts and if you wanted to turn up the boost you don't have to wrecking that nice b16
but then again it comes down to budget A D15b lsd tranny is about $300 a B16 lsd is about $1000.00 (this doesn't incude special deals this is everyday pricing if you were to need it asap)
but the power potential is much higher with a B16
but a boosted D is way faster than a stock B16
the motor swap is easy to put in it's almost a no brainer if you can do your brakes you can do a swap there is more than enough info on Honda-tech on doing it
If you need a hand with the wiring shoot me a Pm if I were you and i had a garage I would do it in a heartbeat it's something that will give you so much insight into how your car works
you only need a basic metric toolset + a 32mm socket and good breaker bar + An engine hoist
it's worth saving the labour cost and putting that into a performance mod
i walked all over you Bwek!
and you KNOW it!!
09-Jan-2009, 07:53 AM
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Word.
My y7 is a stone and i can drive the **** out of it and still get walked by a stock B18b LS Integra, nevermind a B16 haha. It might have something to do with the compression though, i dont think im making anywhere near the 106hp with 95-100-105-115 compression across the board.
And to the original poster. Why the **** would you pull a dying D16y8 out and swap in a obd1 D15b? You want a straight swap? Grab another D16y8 long-block and call it a day.
My y7 is a stone and i can drive the **** out of it and still get walked by a stock B18b LS Integra, nevermind a B16 haha. It might have something to do with the compression though, i dont think im making anywhere near the 106hp with 95-100-105-115 compression across the board.
And to the original poster. Why the **** would you pull a dying D16y8 out and swap in a obd1 D15b? You want a straight swap? Grab another D16y8 long-block and call it a day.
11-Jan-2009, 12:39 AM
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Well, for one I'm told it's harder to find a d16y8 engine than a d15b, and there is a $$$ difference. Now I'm not exactly sure how much though.
I've also been told by a couple people that the d15b has slightly more torque than its d16y8 counterpart, not by much but every little bit counts.
I've also been told by a couple people that the d15b has slightly more torque than its d16y8 counterpart, not by much but every little bit counts.
11-Jan-2009, 12:43 AM
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Now offhand, is there any disadvantage to getting a d15b instead of the d16y8? because they should both be straight swaps, except for a little electrical work. Is it just the OBD2 to OBD1 that would be the problem?
12-Jan-2009, 12:42 AM
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Out of curiosity, how much would it cost to crack open my old engine to see what the problem was with it? I was told it would cost alot to do so, and would spend less money just buying a replacement engine.
Zee, would i be able to bother you to take a look & listen to my car to see if you could figure out what's wrong with it?
Zee, would i be able to bother you to take a look & listen to my car to see if you could figure out what's wrong with it?
12-Jan-2009, 12:50 AM
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that would be good way to start... u can make alot of power out of those motors and theres alot of cheap blocks and heads from other ppl doing swaps to bseries or old builds with rusted cars... id start with a compression test on ur motor and have someone give it a go over... Might be best 1 hrs labour u ever spent.. I have same blue 00 coupe btw a SE tho with b18b swapped in!
12-Jan-2009, 11:29 AM
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i live in trenton!! whole swap was about 2500 for all and i think that was a steal.. Now that i crave vtec tho i recommend to you just build a dseries vtec up.. And ive got too many mods to list but went back to mostly stock for this motor..
12-Jan-2009, 01:30 PM
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Lil Blu i actually just bought a d16y8 fully built and it will be making its way into my car shortly, which leaves me with a d16y8 long block in the garage. I will be taking some parts off it but i will be selling it as a longblock which will be the head and block nothing more nothing less that you could play with while your engine dies you could build this one up a bit. Let me know if you are interested
18-Jan-2009, 12:33 AM
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Oh wow......funny thing is. My engine virtually died on Monday (RIP), and had to get it towed to my buddy's shop. that does sound interesting........ To refresh my memory, what's the difference between long block and short block?
18-Jan-2009, 03:57 AM
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lol you guys i was racin an SiR as well they aren't that "fast" lol they are heavier than a multi colour eg... j/k
I could def run a B18a/b i ran a Da and walked all over it....
honestly don't bother cracking a motor open and don't bother trying to source out some elses old motor you know all the D-series motors around here will be Higher mileage than anything you would get from an importer
You could very easily go to tiger with someone who has done it before and pretty much pick out the cleanest motor you can find check the oil cap smell it, if it smells heavily of fuel, check of the crank turns smooth anything obvious on the outside of the motor
ALSO Do not get a **** obx there quality control has been **** lately you "may" have to send it back a few times till you get a good one then you have to rebuild it. It's also $500.00 alone
an oem Lsd tranny can be had for $300.00 complete ready to go no cracking the case open, and why would they be Higher mileage?
You don't need alot of experience to do motor swap.
However if you are going to start swapping motor bottom ends, cracking open trannies You do need more knowledge for that
I could def run a B18a/b i ran a Da and walked all over it....
honestly don't bother cracking a motor open and don't bother trying to source out some elses old motor you know all the D-series motors around here will be Higher mileage than anything you would get from an importer
You could very easily go to tiger with someone who has done it before and pretty much pick out the cleanest motor you can find check the oil cap smell it, if it smells heavily of fuel, check of the crank turns smooth anything obvious on the outside of the motor
ALSO Do not get a **** obx there quality control has been **** lately you "may" have to send it back a few times till you get a good one then you have to rebuild it. It's also $500.00 alone
an oem Lsd tranny can be had for $300.00 complete ready to go no cracking the case open, and why would they be Higher mileage?
You don't need alot of experience to do motor swap.
However if you are going to start swapping motor bottom ends, cracking open trannies You do need more knowledge for that
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18-Jan-2009, 08:33 AM
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you were driving your EK!
don't lie in front of this N00B!
he might start thinking his y8
will BEAT b16's if he builds it!
TO THE O.P.....
just swap in a b16, b18c1 or b18c5
and call it a day
you won't regret it.
19-Jan-2009, 04:51 AM
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Lol @ JDM, naw man......... I ain't gonna think that I can now smoke SIRs, but one can always dream Yeah, originally this post was my contemplation to swap to a b16 but i'm looking at between $2500 to $3000.......... And for some reason, the thought of turbo'ing a d15b, sounds pretty sweet. straight SOHC
Yeah, originally this post was my contemplation to swap to a b16 but i'm looking at between $2500 to $3000.......... And for some reason, the thought of turbo'ing a d15b, sounds pretty sweet. straight SOHC
19-Jan-2009, 05:03 AM
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My next question is, when buying a motor, is it better to buy an automatic tranny'd motor, and switch to manual? My guess is that JDM d15b's wouldn't have as much abuse on the engine being auto, rather than buying a manual tranny'd motor............?Hope that's not a stupid question
19-Jan-2009, 09:51 AM
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it depends. Auto b16s are the weakest (meaning make the least amount of power) of the b16s. So I wouldn't buy one.
I understand your logic wanting to buy an automatic engine (it's less likely to be beaten on hard) but a lot of 5spd engines are just fine and weren't beaten on.
I understand your logic wanting to buy an automatic engine (it's less likely to be beaten on hard) but a lot of 5spd engines are just fine and weren't beaten on.
