l.d.forget

your welcome, any other questions just let us know.

HabaneroRed06Si

The people we have here with lots of knowledge and experience are valued. Continuing to have them ask the same question over and over will result in them no longer contributing.

As I'm reading this thread and trying to learn I find it frustrating why you won't give numbers.

Are your hp goals. 160-190? 200-220? 230-250? Do you want to have force induction on your car? How much are you will to spend? $1?, $10? $100? $1000? $10000? $100000? $100000+?

C'mon on dude. Just spit it out already. Stop being evasive.

HabaneroRed06Si

Wow wrong thread...too many windows up :S

l.d.forget

Thats exactly what i was trying to get at, haha

l.d.forget

right thread....second page...lol

tooleym

thats alright habanerored06si

tooleym

well guys. calm down please. im not as educated as you! my range is 200-250 hp. i will spend as much money as i have to, to get the car winning races.

l.d.forget

do as i said, with high compression pistons and a full rebuild, and you should break the 200 hp range. h22a injectors will work just fine for you.

tooleym

actually, my range has just been changed according to my boss. the range is 120-140.

l.d.forget

okay..then you can go with b series fuel injectors or with the H injectors, the larger intake manifold/throttle body, and probably some headwork/cams and get your goal. No need to break into the block.

tooleym

thanks.

l.d.forget

no problem.

D.T.P

^^ he will no way in hell hit 140whp with intake mani/TB and cams. Zc sohc... that's a 50-60hp jump. Assuming you make about 120bhp which would be 90-95whp. To get to your goal it will take quite a bit. The only thing I'm not sure of is how will a built engine pass as stock? Revving to 8000rpm will definitely be noticeable, also going with more aggressive cams to make some more power ontop will may attract attention in idle.
The only way to keep it stock and to gain power in my eyes is to mill the head, maybe open up the valve reliefs a bit more to prevent piston hitting the valve. From what I can remember the p29 pistons out of 88-89 1st gen Integra yield higher compression. Getting a mild cam and some valve springs/retainers would get you going. Get obd0-obd1 jumper harness and a p28 ecu and head over to a tuning shop. Get them to get everything dialled in, and you should see somewhere around 120whp.

Now you are saying you will dump all the money it takes right? Well everybody can go fast on the straight, but not many can corner...investing a good amount in suspension would benefit you a lot. Now I understand that its for stock class but as you said earlier, there are ways around. By loading up a shock with more pressure, you can create a stiffer ride even with stock springs. Though can't go too much since you will be risking to blow it. Damping should be adjusted by a specialist who has a shock dyno. Just something to keep in mind.


And l.d.forget, stop pushing h22 stuff. Not to disappoint you, but its not that good of a motor. Plus suggesting to use h22 injectors, why would you use old/unknown condition injectors while he could just buy new ones that wouldnt give you any problems.

l.d.forget

h22a injectors have the highest cc out of any honda motor, you can get them for cheap, then get them sonically cleaned if you so desire, thats why. Its a great motor, have you owned one? im guessing not. Maybe i should suggest he buy 1200 cc RC injectors and only use 10% duty?

tooleym

Scrid3r, so your saying i wont be able to increase that much horsepower, unless i get away from stock?? Also, it is okay if i reach the rev limitor, its a common thing at our track.

dreamr

is the point of a stock class not to remain stock so theat the skill of the driver is what wins the race? sorry to be negitive but im really not for cheating...
just my 2 cents

l.d.forget

btw his motor has 108hp stock..so 12 hp isnt that much of a difference and is easily obtainable with a cam/intake/exhaust.

D.T.P

While you spend the money to get the injectors properly cleaned and balanced, you could save yourself some time and spend about the same amount of time just buying new injectors.
Also, you are correct, I have never owned an H22. I have worked on one, and I'm sure i know a lot more about it than you. There is a lude in my driveway. I guess there is a reason why i do not own one. I don't want the oil burning FMR sleeved block. But to each their own right?

Also, 108hp if in healthy condition would be around 90whp. he wanted 120-140whp. Reason i assume wheel horse power is because i doubt he will get it measured at the crank and a dyno meter reads wheel horse power. So with this assumption, he wants 30-50hp gain.

PS i heard turbonators and multiple headers add insane power.

D.T.P

Revving to red line is fine as long as you have enough oil and you don't starve it on corners. Investing in a better aftermarket oil pan would be a good idea.

But again as dreamr said, it really should be about skill rather than cheating. As i mentioned you can replace the struts while keeping the stock springs. Pre-loading them with more pressure would result in a more controlled and stiffer ride.

Don't take it wrong but it seems like you have no clue what you are doing, but want to win with cash. Practice makes it perfect...

tooleym

just to be clear. my intentions are not to cheat, per say. we want a decent car that runs well. also, scrid3r, you are absolutely correct. i do not know what i am doing. LOL. thats why i am wanting help.

p.s. i am not going to go out spending money on tuning. i am going to get parts from other honda's. so, actually, not cheating.