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Old 15-Jun-2010 | 09:16 PM
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300 for sir engine?

Who thinks a sir motor with bent valves is worth $300 bucks... i plan on building a turbo in the future... but thats 1 year future lol.... can si valves be swapped onto it?

it has like 170k on it
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Or... a 2002 civic sir motor, for 500
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oh.. the first one is a 00 sir B16A2.. 170k for $300..
Old 15-Jun-2010 | 10:17 PM
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or buy my k24a4 that needs 5 intake valves for $350? i'm cutting you a major deal since i wanted 800 for it
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lol nah man.. i wanna go b series either a gsr/type-r/ls-vtec
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thanks tho bro
Old 15-Jun-2010 | 10:27 PM
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ahh ok
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Originally Posted by Mugenn.civic.09
Who thinks a sir motor with bent valves is worth $300 bucks... i plan on building a turbo in the future... but thats 1 year future lol.... can si valves be swapped onto it?

it has like 170k on it
The 00 SiR motor is a B16A2 which is completely different from the Si (canadian) motor which is a d-series.

With the amount of money you will spend on having that engine fixed and rebuilt will end up costing you the same or more then buying a B16A2 that's already in good shape and running.

Originally Posted by Mugenn.civic.09
Or... a 2002 civic sir motor, for 500
The 2002 SiR motor is the k20 engine from the base RSX which made 160hp (same as the B16A2).

B series motors swap into your coupe much easier and cheaper then a k series which requires a special mount kit etc...

What exactly are the plans for your car? What kind of power do you want to make, and what kind of use will it see? Daily driving, track, or both? What is your budget?

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Originally Posted by Mugenn.civic.09
oh.. the first one is a 00 sir B16A2.. 170k for $300..
Originally Posted by MPR
The 00 SiR motor is a B16A2 which is completely different from the Si (canadian) motor which is a d-series.

Lol i knoww

With the amount of money you will spend on having that engine fixed and rebuilt will end up costing you the same or more then buying a B16A2 that's already in good shape and running.

well i'm gunna be changing almost all internals anyways, its gunna be a slow build (inc. valves, pistons, rods, etc.)


The 2002 SiR motor is the k20 engine from the base RSX which made 160hp (same as the B16A2).

B series motors swap into your coupe much easier and cheaper then a k series which requires a special mount kit etc...

What exactly are the plans for your car? What kind of power do you want to make, and what kind of use will it see? Daily driving, track, or both? What is your budget?

Well i plan on boosting it slightly... not a track/autocross level but a more fun spirited street demon lol..maybe 8 psi or something
whatcha thinkk?
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oh and my budget will be quite generous.. i'm gunna be workin @ rogers all summer w/ common 12-hour shifts pkging phones whoooo soo i'm probably gunna be stuffing cash into this engine build
Old 15-Jun-2010 | 11:20 PM
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For 400$ you can find an ls-vtec. Build that and boost. It will require less psi from the turbo to make the same power.
Btw. Power goals should be measured in hp not psi

Imo its not worth it. Also doing extensive ammount of head work is not needed on a b16. It flows very well and for your power goals I would be confident in saying you do not need anything more. Hell to be honest you don't even need to build the block. A near 300hp car will suffice on the street and it will be reliable in stock form. If you are aiming for higher numbers, a build bottom end with a stock head will still be damn good for 400whp marker.


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Old 15-Jun-2010 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Mugenn.civic.09
oh and my budget will be quite generous.. i'm gunna be workin @ rogers all summer w/ common 12-hour shifts pkging phones whoooo soo i'm probably gunna be stuffing cash into this engine build
Not to seem like that douche bag voice of reason, but throwing cash at a car is not the best idea as they don't hold any value of the money you spent.

I honesty want to be in this game like alot of the guys/ladies here. Work done by yourself and parts bought as inexpensive as possible without losing the parts integrity.

So spend wisely and stretch your dollar. Plan your build and the cheapest road to get there. Don't through cash at some phucked out part.
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Originally Posted by scrid3r
For 400$ you can find an ls-vtec. Build that and boost. It will require less psi from the turbo to make the same power.
Btw. Power goals should be measured in hp not psi

Imo its not worth it. Also doing extensive ammount of head work is not needed on a b16. It flows very well and for your power goals I would be confident in saying you do not need anything more. Hell to be honest you don't even need to build the block. A near 300hp car will suffice on the street and it will be reliable in stock form. If you are aiming for higher numbers, a build bottom end with a stock head will still be damn good for 400whp marker.


"Turbos make torque, and torque makes fun." - Corky Bell
Lol arrite, ill keep shoppin' anyways even if i got it it would be sitting in my garage for like 6 months at least, thanks for the info, really? boost a stock engine up to 300 hp? daamn... my goals were at like 200..maybe a bit higher? nothing drastic just want a lil more punch when i hit the gas, and i drove a b18b (non-vtec) and it was pritty quick... not enough for me lol... in the end... i might go ls-vtec on a b18b and throw a gsr on it, then build the block for slightly lower compression..

Originally Posted by HabaneroRed06Si
Not to seem like that douche bag voice of reason, but throwing cash at a car is not the best idea as they don't hold any value of the money you spent.

I honesty want to be in this game like alot of the guys/ladies here. Work done by yourself and parts bought as inexpensive as possible without losing the parts integrity.

So spend wisely and stretch your dollar. Plan your build and the cheapest road to get there. Don't through cash at some phucked out part.

well... yeah i know, but really i don't care about how the value holds up.. i just wanna enjoy my car while i can you know... life's not guaranteed... why not boost it

but yeah, i agree 100% i'm gunna keep an eye out for a more reliable engine in the future, thanks every1... saved me from wasting money
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B-series engine can put out 300hp to the crank safe if tuned well.

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Old 16-Jun-2010 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Mugenn.civic.09
Who thinks a sir motor with bent valves is worth $300 bucks... i plan on building a turbo in the future... but thats 1 year future lol.... can si valves be swapped onto it?

it has like 170k on it
Mugenn, in your first post you asked if Si valves (d-series) could be swaped in to the b16. Thats why I stated that the engines were completely different. Didn't know if you knew...

If all you're after is around 200whp, you can buy and build a very reliable non-vtec b18b1 (LS) motor swap that will put you right in the pocket, for not a lot of money.

The more power you want to make the more money you'll have to spend. So if 200whp with a b-series is your goal, you won't have to spend a fortune if you go turbo.


PS. is your car auto or standard?
Old 16-Jun-2010 | 11:27 AM
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I'm making 200WHP on a stock D16Y8. Zeeman tuned it and its running at 9.5PSI. If that's all your looking for then go that route.
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