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meateater 02-Oct-2006 09:11 PM

HID's, Xenon? whats the difference and price?
 
hey all i want to get brighter lights and i have heard of changing the bulbs but i don't wanna do the cheap way. i heard you can get a kit. it comes with some box and blah blah ablah....

can anyone tell me where i can buy this philips lighting system for my 96 civic Si. how much? warranty? life span? etc...

how much do they kits go for is what i really need to know and who on this board sells them?

keep in touch

thanks

Russ

rjngo 02-Oct-2006 09:32 PM

if you want philips thengo to speedstar in markham or visit speedstar.ca

meateater 05-Oct-2006 08:41 PM

price?

rjngo 05-Oct-2006 10:55 PM

^ visit www.speedstar.ca

imported_xplizitremix 06-Oct-2006 02:00 AM

no point in getting philips too expensive

Just get a plug and play HID kit, very bright, looks beautiful

Picked up mine from OptionJDM

Prolumen


EDIT: don't get the bulb replacements.... i know someone who has it and IN MY OPINION they look allright but i think OEM lights are better for seeing... they are more looks and if your going to spend **.99 on just bulbs from CC might as well pick up a good set for a little bit more money and be alot more satisfied

imported_phuviano 06-Oct-2006 03:19 PM


Originally posted by xplizitremix
no point in getting philips too expensive

Just get a plug and play HID kit, very bright, looks beautiful

Picked up mine from OptionJDM

Prolumen


EDIT: don't get the bulb replacements.... i know someone who has it and IN MY OPINION they look allright but i think OEM lights are better for seeing... they are more looks and if your going to spend **.99 on just bulbs from CC might as well pick up a good set for a little bit more money and be alot more satisfied

If you buy cheap, you get cheap. You get what you pay for. Everyone knows Philips has the best HID system out there.

imported_xplizitremix 07-Oct-2006 05:26 AM

But why buy something 3X times more expensive when soemthing with proven customers and technology works fine for a much better price

EDIT: thats how i decided on what kit to buy... people had history with certain brands and after reading about it went with it

rjngo 08-Oct-2006 03:26 PM

^ philips aren't 3X more expensive!

imported_Thrill_House 08-Oct-2006 06:11 PM

I went with a Mcullough HID kit and have had it nearly 2 years now with now problems. And I picked it up for around $200 . Mcullough was one of the original companies to put out an aftermarket HID kit and they are still one of the best.

imported_xplizitremix 11-Oct-2006 11:06 PM


Originally posted by rjngo
^ philips aren't 3X more expensive!
i wals thought philips were like $600 dolalrs the full kit with bulbs
and any other aftermakret hid kit can range from like $200- $350-$400
So pretty much?

Unless the price of the kits dropped

rjngo 12-Oct-2006 12:51 AM

These are the prices directly from speedstar:

XenonDepot 4300K (Philips Bulbs+Ballast) $448.40 CDN + TAX

XenonDepot 3000K/6000K (Philips Bulbs+Ballast) $519.20 CDN + TAX

imported_xplizitremix 15-Oct-2006 04:19 AM

is there FULL philips kits? or just bulbs pretty much?
depends what your looking at alot of people sell New hid kits on the forums for like $250 a pop (no tax b/s/t)

vs $512 (picking the more epensive one you posted) + tax

Now i'm not arguing that the philips kit is about 80% better then your avg kit and that it'll probably last longer but originally he was thinking about just changing bulbs , i just suggested that there are better alternatives that aren't MUCh more expensive and getting a more efficient out put in light

rjngo 15-Oct-2006 10:00 AM

well read his post...he doesn't wanna do the cheap way of just changing the light bulb, he wants the kit(which imo is HID-hopefully) and he said philips not any other brands. seems like the guy wants it so i'm just telling him where to get it

imported_JoonyaSI 24-Oct-2006 10:54 AM


Originally posted by Thrill_House
I went with a Mcullough HID kit and have had it nearly 2 years now with now problems. And I picked it up for around $200 . Mcullough was one of the original companies to put out an aftermarket HID kit and they are still one of the best.

i also have a Mcullough KIT .. and my driver side bulb just died ... how do i go about replacing the bulbs ? do i have to go with the same K that i bought it with ? or will a higher K bulb work as well ... ive been told the ballast may blow bulbs that arnt rated with the same K it was sold with :shrugs: so if i bought my Mcullough kit with 5400K bulbs do i have to replace them with 5400K or can i go to like a 4300K bulb ? or higher to a 6000K if i wanted ?

whats the process for Mcullough ??

imported_Thrill_House 24-Oct-2006 08:58 PM


Originally posted by JoonyaSI



i also have a Mcullough KIT .. and my driver side bulb just died ... how do i go about replacing the bulbs ? do i have to go with the same K that i bought it with ? or will a higher K bulb work as well ... ive been told the ballast may blow bulbs that arnt rated with the same K it was sold with :shrugs: so if i bought my Mcullough kit with 5400K bulbs do i have to replace them with 5400K or can i go to like a 4300K bulb ? or higher to a 6000K if i wanted ?

whats the process for Mcullough ??

I think you can go with a slightly higher kelvin but if you do that then the other bulb will look slightly off in colour. Best thing to do is replace both for a matched set if you can. I would contact Mcullough though just to be confirm that you can go up to a higher or even a lower kelvin bulb.

bbarbulo 25-Oct-2006 12:25 AM

in my experience, an HID kit in stock reflector housings actually reduced visibility over OEM.

imported_JoonyaSI 25-Oct-2006 08:58 AM


Originally posted by bbarbulo
in my experience, an HID kit in stock reflector housings actually reduced visibility over OEM.
nah i dont find that true .. i love the increased visibility that i now have .. even with only 1 light bumpin out now .. its still not bad ...

rjngo 25-Oct-2006 10:22 AM


Originally posted by bbarbulo
in my experience, an HID kit in stock reflector housings actually reduced visibility over OEM.
i don't know about you and what kind of hid you bought but from my experience it made 3X the visibility over oem

bbarbulo 25-Oct-2006 07:37 PM

I think you guys are fooled by the visible light output. the frequency of the HID light is sufficiently different from street lighting, so you notice the light pattern better and you therefore think you must also see better. in fact, if you put a stock car in pitch dark, vs a HID kitted car in pitch dark.... I guarantee 100% the stock lighting system will beat the HID kitted car.

for the record, I've had the following light mods:

90/100 phillips rallye bulbs from the UK
Osram 55/60 bulbs from Germany
McCullough 6000K HID kit
Narva 55/60 Gold from France
and currently OEM 2002 BMW 3 series bixenon HID retrofit (4300K)

imported_Team Rukus 26-Oct-2006 11:07 AM


Originally posted by rjngo
well read his post...he doesn't wanna do the cheap way of just changing the light bulb, he wants the kit(which imo is HID-hopefully) and he said philips not any other brands. seems like the guy wants it so i'm just telling him where to get it
your not right either.
you didnt provide him with a real phillps kit. you provided him with a xenondepot kit.

a real phillips kit starts at 900 and can go up to 3 grand.


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