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Old 16-Sep-2011, 02:59 AM
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I've been trying to get my x86 version of the preview download to install on VirtualBox but it doesn't seem to wanna go.
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Old 16-Sep-2011, 08:00 AM
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lol i can counter every single point very well here and in detail, but that will be waste of my time.

you have much to learn young one

PS: Linux is def solid, BTW i have used knoppix, back in the days (of course for cracking admin psw in commons), Ubuntu with compiz fusion (for fun), red hat/fedora (work related), back track (training) was good as well.....but even after all that use i still prefer windows

Give me one thing that Windows can do that linux cannot apart from games. Though you could still run .exe files but its not going to perform the same or to its full potential. Not sure but i believe the new version of "Wine" has solved many problems that i had earlier.

I'm all ears.
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Old 16-Sep-2011, 12:47 PM
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linux vs. windows round 1.... ding ding!

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Old 16-Sep-2011, 04:56 PM
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it's not about which one is more powerful or which can do more, it's about which one is more intuitive and easier to use. The standard PC user does not even know what Linux is.

Also, if you are naive enough to believe that Linux cannot be insecure or does not have bugs you better check yo self!
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Old 16-Sep-2011, 07:11 PM
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I'm not saying linux is absolutely bug free, nor is it 100% safe...but under both categories, linux surpasses windows capabilities.

Granted, 40% of the people haven't heard of linux, the other 40% think its terminal operated...which is the problem. In reality, linux is very easy to use (depending on distribution ofcourse). And if you know what you are doing, searching/moving/copying files throughout file system.

Seems like people cannot adapt to new things and thus its not popular.
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Old 17-Sep-2011, 05:01 PM
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I have known of Linux since 1999. Havent taken the risk of trying it. More fear of the unknown on my part than anything else.
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Old 17-Sep-2011, 07:56 PM
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Well you do NOT need to install linux to run it. There are live versions of ubuntu and few others which allow you to boot into it from cd without actually installing onto hard drive. Perfect opportunity to try if you have time to kill. Granted lots of apps are missing due to live version, but that's reasonable and you will not get to enjoy full experience of the os.
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Old 17-Sep-2011, 08:06 PM
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You can also partition a portion of your hard drive, run windows on one and ubuntu on the other. Friend of mine who is a computer programing wiz did this with his pc for numerous reasons. And simply because he could...lol.
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Old 18-Sep-2011, 09:59 PM
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He is a show off eh? LOL
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Old 18-Sep-2011, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by D.T.P
I'm not saying linux is absolutely bug free, nor is it 100% safe...but under both categories, linux surpasses windows capabilities.

Granted, 40% of the people haven't heard of linux, the other 40% think its terminal operated...which is the problem. In reality, linux is very easy to use (depending on distribution ofcourse). And if you know what you are doing, searching/moving/copying files throughout file system.

Seems like people cannot adapt to new things and thus its not popular.
Why should they? What does the average user need from Linux? All they want is to point and click and have it work. The end.
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Old 19-Sep-2011, 01:18 AM
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Because people dont like to spend money to upgrade their old computers and half running linux increases performance greatly. Perfect example with Mikes laptop.
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Old 19-Sep-2011, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by D.T.P
Because people dont like to spend money to upgrade their old computers and half running linux increases performance greatly. Perfect example with Mikes laptop.
You guys just don't get it. As much as Linux has come along since I first started using it when I was 13, it's nowhere near as convenient, intuitive, and easy to use as Windows or OSX.

Add to that the fact that the vast majority of apps people know and are comfortable with DO NOT work in Linux and you have a no brainer reason why it's not a majority stakeholder in the PC market.

As for upgrading, with the rate technology evolves these days, you have to upgrade everything anyway. If I was joe blow user, I wouldn't retrain myself on how to use Linux just to save a few bucks when I'd get a lot more surprises and headaches out of it. And for corporate users, who gives a rats *** about how much your company has to spend on you.
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Old 19-Sep-2011, 10:48 PM
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He is a show off eh? LOL
Naw, just a computer geek... lol :P
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Old 20-Sep-2011, 10:28 AM
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Naw, just a computer geek... lol :P

Doesn't take more than half a brain to setup a PC for dual booting...
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Old 20-Sep-2011, 12:36 PM
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Not even gonna argue. Its absolutely pointless. Since some people are just narrow minded. Look at it this way, why pay for OS and then on top of that office etc, then worry about viruses etc....Linux is user friendly, easy to set up, everything comes free...But whatever...

Been using linux for past 3 years only and been on/off with school projects and random reasons for many years now...Couldnt be happier.
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Old 20-Sep-2011, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by D.T.P
Not even gonna argue. Its absolutely pointless. Since some people are just narrow minded. Look at it this way, why pay for OS and then on top of that office etc, then worry about viruses etc....Linux is user friendly, easy to set up, everything comes free...But whatever...

Been using linux for past 3 years only and been on/off with school projects and random reasons for many years now...Couldnt be happier.
Linux has been around longer than Windows has. Why isn't it dominating the marketplace?
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Old 20-Sep-2011, 12:46 PM
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Also, believe me when I tell you that an improperly setup Linux machine by a n00b who has no clue is a lot more dangerous than simply installing Windows.

Having telnet servers running, amongst other things, makes Linux quite insecure out of the box.

Do you think the average Joe Blow has any clue about this or how to secure their installation?

You can call me narrow minded, the fact is, I can pretty much guarantee that I've been using Linux longer than anyone in this discussion.
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Old 20-Sep-2011, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by shlammed
Doesn't take more than half a brain to setup a PC for dual booting...
I wasn't saying it takes brains. Most people have no reason to dual partition their hard drives. He did it just because. That's all I'm saying.
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Old 20-Sep-2011, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by shlammed
Linux has been around longer than Windows has. Why isn't it dominating the marketplace?
Because the idea behind linux is a system that works and works for free. Linux isn't about profit. That's why.

Same reason why most people have heard of AEM EMS or hondata and almost nobody knows what Megasquirt is.
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Because the idea behind linux is a system that works and works for free. Linux isn't about profit. That's why.

Same reason why most people have heard of AEM EMS or hondata and almost nobody knows what Megasquirt is.
fair argument, but not really.

the fact remains that Windows is the easier of the two. Have you ever worked tech support in your life? Try taking calls from people asking if they can wirlessly charge their BlackBerry (man I miss those days) and then tell me if you think the average person should be using Linux.
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