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Old 27-May-2008, 05:44 PM
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Man climbs in morgue freezer with dead lover.



A Taiwan man grieving over the death of his girlfriend climbed inside a morgue freezer to be with her body in an apparent suicide bid.
He was pulled alive half an hour later when workers detected an unusually high temperature in the freezer and realised the hatch was not securely fastened.
"A morgue manager opened the hatch, saw two people lying inside, felt scared enough to yell out and then even cried," Taiwan's Liberty Times reported.
It was reported his girlfriend died on Friday from an overdose of sleeping pills.
The morgue said it would step up security to ensure that family and others who come by to identify bodies do not stay too long.


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That is real love

But suicide is a HUGE Sin.
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But suicide is a HUGE Sin.
according to people who follow ideals set by people who could not comprehend what a molecule was.

what's your point?

that's not love.

that's desperation, weakness, and stupidity.
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according to people who follow ideals set by people who could not comprehend what a molecule was.

what's your point?

that's not love.

that's desperation, weakness, and stupidity.
man i see your point, i guess you would see that because you are more self confident then this guy, i mean we can't know what he was going through, not everyone is on the same level.

As for the molecule question, i think you were replying to when i said suicide is a sin, well i believe if you kill yourself on purpose your soul lurks on earth as its not time for you to die, and not going to much into detail, if everything does not exists without a purpose then self killing is messing with a broad system. For example people are not just roaming earth without a purpose, we have a system that we live in and goals we want to achieve, i don't believe in random existence, everything happens for and because of a reason or it would not happen at all.

ps: i have gotten used to your secret buttons bruce, lets not talk too much about this on here, if you have some thoughts regarding this please just pm me. thanks.
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secret buttons? go for it.

you can believe what you want.

reality will not change based upon your beliefs.

by the way, the PMs were a joke a few of us were laughing at.

I wanted to see how deep the dementia is, but i got bored.

an atheist by definition does not believe in anything that cannot be experienced through the five senses known as vision, touch, taste, smell, and hear. these experiences must be the same for everyone else who is not handicapped.

unfortunately, this means i don't believe in anything beyond the physical world.

the mind is nothing more than a collection of cells working together, forming a consciousness for a reason that I, and no one else with a rational mind, can explain.

we live. we die. in the end, none of it will matter.

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True love should yield positive action. human stupidity knows no bounds.

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Originally Posted by bruce fee
secret buttons? go for it.

you can believe what you want.

reality will not change based upon your beliefs.

by the way, the PMs were a joke a few of us were laughing at.

I wanted to see how deep the dementia is, but i got bored.

an atheist by definition does not believe in anything that cannot be experienced through the five senses known as vision, touch, taste, smell, and hear. these experiences must be the same for everyone else who is not handicapped.

unfortunately, this means i don't believe in anything beyond the physical world.

the mind is nothing more than a collection of cells working together, forming a consciousness for a reason that I, and no one else with a rational mind, can explain.

we live. we die. in the end, none of it will matter.

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i was just saying pm, so if you wanted, i also take all of it as joke, the teezing i guess.

well i agree that phyzical reality is what you are referring to is feeling through the senses like you mentioned but the guy is dead, so he ain't really in the physical form no more. Love can make people do crazy things, but love definitely isn't out of chance, any man who doesn't beat the boner for 3 days or more, will more likely chase girls, and as he prolongs this he gets more testosterone build up,depending on how he is with girls he will either lay the pipe or is "nice guy" and follows traditions and starts falling for this girl, and finds few things interesting and slowly attraction takes over his senses. The same way if you want a chick to get attracted to you, just be around her week before she has her period, most likely she is very emotional and sexually frustrated.

so i also don't believe in love either, love is just an extended version of liking someones personality traits that are regarded high in your head, and the combination of testosterone level.


I also want to ask you, if you or lets say any atheist, only believes in what is evident through their sense, and not through belief or judgment, or intuition, that you can easily be manipulated by those who know that its easier to fool someone who calculates reality through basic physical sensory methods?

If you are able to understand that a digital camera can use night vision to see things in the dark we can't, doesn't that obliterate the fact that our eyes have the simplest of optical vision, and that this means there are things out there we cannot see from the naked eye? would this then not prove that there is more to reality then what we see, feel, or know off ?

new technology in the military is testing and achieved some level of complete invisibility, does that not prove our sense are limited? and that now humanly its possible to trick the eye, mind?

you also mentioned that what would they know about molecules in the ancient times, does this not credit, books like the holy Bible and Qu'ran with facts given then about what we know now when no one had such knowledge then?

does this not prove that someone like you 100 years in the future will say what did they know about quantum mechanics back then?

final question, "we live, then we die" isn't it better to believe something and be prepared for it then have no proof and gamble the result, even when there is written scripture to advice that there is afterlife, and rules to life.

it seems atheist also don't believe in being well prepared and in probability.


here is an example of what i mean.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDsIF...eature=related

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final question, "we live, then we die" isn't it better to believe something and be prepared for it then have no proof and gamble the result, even when there is written scripture to advice that there is afterlife, and rules to life.

I hate when religious ppl say this. Its like saying I'm religious just in case there is something after death.
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Originally Posted by Midori
final question, "we live, then we die" isn't it better to believe something and be prepared for it then have no proof and gamble the result, even when there is written scripture to advice that there is afterlife, and rules to life.

I hate when religious ppl say this. Its like saying I'm religious just in case there is something after death.

Thanks for twisting the meaning,real reason why people might say it that way is to say hey look if you have no beliefs using common sense is it not legible to think that okay if nothing else, does it not make sense you use some sort of written idea towards a good enough reason to make a change?

this is exactly what the guy in the link i provided is trying to say.

Now afterwards, if someone realizes it is true or FEELS so, it would be up to them to either believe it or not, its not like they aren't thousands of people who believe in religion with lose intentions, its not religious words im using to give an idea or evidence, im using PROBABILITY and sensory evidence to prove that its better to do somthing then nothing at all, and that religious books provide that reason to do something about it, and atheist chose not to do anything about it.

Honestly i didn't know how many non-believers there are out there until i joined forums on-line.

ps: i can peacefully co-exist with atheists, being religious, nor do i impose religion on anyone, every living being on earth has equal rights, and this is the way for us(people who believe, but not limited too) to live from Gods(universal) law, it is only he(God) who decides the differences. I only use my teachings to enlighten my self and help others question everything further, because we only question things we have an idea about, and that idea only comes from prior knowledge of something witnessed to, and until someone does not take that effort to know something they will never know what they could know.

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Thanks for twisting the meaning,real reason why people might say it that way is to say hey look if you have no beliefs using common sense is it not legible to think that okay if nothing else, does it not make sense you use some sort of written idea towards a good enough reason to make a change?

this is exactly what the guy in the link i provided is trying to say.

Now afterwards, if someone realizes it is true or FEELS so, it would be up to them to either believe it or not, its not like they aren't thousands of people who believe in religion with lose intentions, its not religious words im using to give an idea or evidence, im using PROBABILITY and sensory evidence to prove that its better to do somthing then nothing at all, and that religious books provide that reason to do something about it, and atheist chose not to do anything about it.

Honestly i didn't know how many non-believers there are out there until i joined forums on-line.

ps: i can peacefully co-exist with atheists, being religious, nor do i impose religion on anyone, every living being on earth has equal rights, and this is the way for us(people who believe, but not limited too) to live from Gods(universal) law, it is only he(God) who decides the differences. I only use my teachings to enlighten my self and help others question everything further, because we only question things we have an idea about, and that idea only comes from prior knowledge of something witnessed to, and until someone does not take that effort to know something they will never know what they could know.


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Originally Posted by bruce fee
according to people who follow ideals set by people who could not comprehend what a molecule was.

what's your point?

that's not love.

that's desperation, weakness, and stupidity.
whats your pt

everyone expresses their love differently; you might not do it, but to him it seemed like the right thing. Don't classify it as a weakness/desperation etc... the guy did what he saw fit.

You judge others but you yourself are faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from being NORMAL; let alone perfect
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whats your pt

everyone expresses their love differently; you might not do it, but to him it seemed like the right thing. Don't classify it as a weakness/desperation etc... the guy did what he saw fit.

You judge others but you yourself are faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from being NORMAL; let alone perfect
you are faaar from making sound, fact based conclusions.

Some people see it fit to murder their family and kill themselves because they love them so much. Is that expression of love? Or is that weakness, desperation, and stupidity?

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ps: i can peacefully co-exist with atheists, being religious, nor do i impose religion on anyone, every living being on earth has equal rights, and this is the way for us(people who believe, but not limited too) to live from Gods(universal) law, it is only he(God) who decides the differences. I only use my teachings to enlighten my self and help others question everything further, because we only question things we have an idea about, and that idea only comes from prior knowledge of something witnessed to, and until someone does not take that effort to know something they will never know what they could know.
Really? You can't seem to co-exist with Honda Civic enthusiasts who have no bearing outside of an TCP/IP based world. Was it Jesus or Mohammad who walked around asking people to call them "FukU" Maybe it was Buddha.

Do yourself a favour and read about 'enlightenment' before you talk about it.

Tao Te Ching and Shambala Warrior are two very well written books on the path of "enlightenment"

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well i agree that phyzical reality is what you are referring to is feeling through the senses like you mentioned but the guy is dead, so he ain't really in the physical form no more.
Love is an emotion, not a fact based truth.

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Love can make people do crazy things, but love definitely isn't out of chance,
You mean to say all these people who fall in love, get married and divorce were meant to fall in love?

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any man who doesn't beat the boner for 3 days or more, will more likely chase girls, and as he prolongs this he gets more testosterone build up,depending on how he is with girls he will either lay the pipe or is "nice guy" and follows traditions and starts falling for this girl, and finds few things interesting and slowly attraction takes over his senses.
Testosterone doesn't build up like that. Everything you do, depletes your testosterone levels. Including taking a big dump. The more you use it, the more your body creates. It's not something your body builds up and accumulates for days. Back in the days of not knowing biology and chemistry, they might have thought that.

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The same way if you want a chick to get attracted to you, just be around her week before she has her period, most likely she is very emotional and sexually frustrated.
It's not the week before her period, it's actually around the middle of the cycle when she is most fertile. If sex wasn't fun, we wouldn't procreate. Men are insensitive and women are... silly. We have these drives cause if we didn't, men would be getting drunk and women would be talking about emotions until humanity died out.

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so i also don't believe in love either, love is just an extended version of liking someones personality traits that are regarded high in your head, and the combination of testosterone level.
So you don't believe in the emotion of loving, but you believe in the emotion of liking someone? Interesting.

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I also want to ask you, if you or lets say any atheist, only believes in what is evident through their sense, and not through belief or judgment, or intuition, that you can easily be manipulated by those who know that its easier to fool someone who calculates reality through basic physical sensory methods?
always be a skeptic.

Originally Posted by FukU
If you are able to understand that a digital camera can use night vision to see things in the dark we can't, doesn't that obliterate the fact that our eyes have the simplest of optical vision, and that this means there are things out there we cannot see from the naked eye? would this then not prove that there is more to reality then what we see, feel, or know off ?
Our eyes are incredible and very advanced actually. There is a lot of light that our eyes cannot detect, but we have devices that detect them, and we can show it through using scientific apparatus. Just because you cannot see things based on heat, or see in pitch black without an infrared light and camera, it does not mean there are purple dragons flying around.

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new technology in the military is testing and achieved some level of complete invisibility, does that not prove our sense are limited? and that now humanly its possible to trick the eye, mind?
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Criss Angel can trick the human eye. Is he an alien or something?

I know the military equipment you are talking about. Cameras record and produce an image of what is behind them, all around. It's not like they're taking titanium, aluminium, and lead, and making them transparent or translucent.

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you also mentioned that what would they know about molecules in the ancient times, does this not credit, books like the holy Bible and Qu'ran with facts given then about what we know now when no one had such knowledge then?
what facts? The one where women shouldn't drive cars? It's a bunch of cavemen sitting around thinking the cause of all existence is cause of some dude who looks like your grandfather who sits in the clouds and wants you to dance for him.


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does this not prove that someone like you 100 years in the future will say what did they know about quantum mechanics back then?
We know knowledge on quantum mechanics, but it isn't perfect, and it's far from complete. I don't understand what your point is on this one.

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final question, "we live, then we die" isn't it better to believe something and be prepared for it then have no proof and gamble the result, even when there is written scripture to advice that there is afterlife, and rules to life.

it seems atheist also don't believe in being well prepared and in probability.
Believing in a religion as a disaster recovery plan is... incorrect on so many levels. How do you know which interpretation of this creator is correct? Maybe the real god is a robot which wants you to murder people? Shouldn't you murder people just in case?

Are you getting ready for a zombie takeover just in case?

What about a Terminator invasion?

same ish.

Originally Posted by FukU
here is an example of what i mean.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDsIF...eature=related

I think this guy has more intelligent things to say than your video clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K-wEUCCvE0

He will make you humble, old country way, for a god and a jesus.
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Your video reply is retarded, and so are you for thinking what you do. You can't even have a decent conversation witout helping yourself.lol

I have no respect for you, now i know why Atheists are ****(i.e stubborn).lol

I won't even bother any further, Bruce you made it 100% clear for me, you assume religious people or i am not smart, yet every time i post up something or make you question something, you have the same lame *** replies, you have worse ideals then any religious person, and you stick with them like its a religion.

Enlightenment comes from within not from learning it from others, every being is different who reacts different to a process. One who can not enlighten himself is not enlightened.

you learn everything from others (man made), what have you learned yourself? does that not make you a robot?.

And you have no idea about religion, because you have never read it, you don't know whats in it as proof.





ps: isn't the sea, the mountains the earth you being in existence enough proof of Gods presence.lol

what are you waiting for God to appear or do something radical? he won't no matter what you do. In the end you are the fool not him.

It also shows your minute thinking, the mere fact people follow or should follow religion is for a good way of life and to believe in a creator, not if the creator is a robot or this that, that just shows me right there you have some fantasy image of what God should look like. And your intelligent(as you falsely claim) misses the fact God is whatever that created us, God is whatever the ultimate power is, you putting the face or physical form to God makes you no different from the ancient idolizers and makes you even more caveman mentally then the so called back ward religious people you claim.

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"what facts? The one where women shouldn't drive cars? It's a bunch of cavemen sitting around thinking the cause of all existence is cause of some dude who looks like your grandfather who sits in the clouds and wants you to dance for him."

1.The moon was split in Half then joined back together. Heres one for you to dwell on, ahem i mean research on.

and one more thing, since i guess you are an Atheist you must believe in Evolution, well you can accept your grandfather was a Monkey, i know mine was a real man from the start.

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Your video reply is retarded, and so are you for thinking what you do. You can't even have a decent conversation witout helping yourself.lol
helping myself to "lol"ing? I'm not sure what you mean. Someone needs to make you humble, old country way.

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I won't even bother any further
why did you post again below then?

Originally Posted by FukU
you have worse ideals then any religious person, and you stick with them like its a religion.
george bush and bin laden claim are religious people. they have "better" ideals than I?

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Enlightenment comes from within not from learning it from others, every being is different who reacts different to a process.
you can't sit in a dark closet and unlock the secrets of the universe. well, maybe you can, but reading other people's views and beliefs

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One who can not enlighten himself is not enlightened.
kind of like masturbation and rubbing your own *****? that's a circular argument if i ever saw one.

Tao Te Ching actually put words into a lot of what I already knew.

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you learn everything from others (man made), what have you learned yourself? does that not make you a robot?.
how to focus my eyes. it depends on your definition of robot.

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And you have no idea about religion, because you have never read it, you don't know whats in it as proof.
actually, I have. Know thy enemy.


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ps: isn't the sea, the mountains the earth you being in existence enough proof of Gods presence.lol
no, it's proof of dragons though.

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what are you waiting for God to appear or do something radical? he won't no matter what you do.
I'm waiting for your god to do something as much as I'm waiting for the tooth fairy, or you to say something intelligent.

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In the end you are the fool not him.
in the end, we're the same. Non-existant.

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It also shows your minute thinking, the mere fact people follow or should follow religion is for a good way of life and to believe in a creator, not if the creator is a robot or this that, that just shows me right there you have some fantasy image of what God should look like. And your intelligent(as you falsely claim) misses the fact God is whatever that created us, God is whatever the ultimate power is, you putting the face or physical form to God makes you no different from the ancient idolizers and makes you even more caveman mentally then the so called back ward religious people you claim.
even if your god existed, he wouldn't be the ultimate real power in the universe.

www.realultimatepower.net


Ninjas, shadows, same thing?
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Originally Posted by FukU
1.The moon was split in Half then joined back together. Heres one for you to dwell on, ahem i mean research on.

and one more thing, since i guess you are an Atheist you must believe in Evolution, well you can accept your grandfather was a Monkey, i know mine was a real man from the start.
1. I know all about that. Zombie Jesus did it with his laser eyes while he was flying over a desidious forest causing forest fires to punish humankind.

2. my grandfather wasn't a monkey. my great-great grandfather was a monkey. everyone know evolution happened at least 200 years ago.
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