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Old 29-Feb-2008, 09:34 AM
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Israeli minister warns of Palestinian 'holocaust'

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this is why north America should just leave it alone. (that includes not giving Israel a shekel.

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An Israeli minister today warned of increasingly bitter conflict in the Gaza Strip, saying the Palestinians could bring on themselves what he called a "holocaust".


"The more Qassam [rocket] fire intensifies and the rockets reach a longer range, they will bring upon themselves a bigger shoah because we will use all our might to defend ourselves," Matan Vilnai, Israel's deputy defence minister, told army radio.


Shoah is the Hebrew word normally reserved to refer to the Jewish Holocaust. It is rarely used in Israel outside discussions of the **** extermination of Jews during the second world war, and many Israelis are loath to countenance its use to describe other events.


The minister's statement came after two days of tit-for-tat missile raids between Hamas militants in the Gaza Strip and the Israeli army. At least 32 Palestinians and one Israeli have been killed since the surge in violence on Wednesday.


Today Israel activated a rocket warning system to protect Ashkelon, a city of 120,000 people, from Palestinian attacks.


Ashkelon was hit by several Grad rockets fired from Gaza yesterday. One hit an apartment building, slicing through the roof and three floors below, and another landed near a school, wounding a 17-year-old girl.


Located 11 miles from Gaza, Ashkelon has been sporadically targeted before but not suffered direct hits or significant damage.


"It will be sad, and difficult, but we have no other choice," Vilnai said, referring to the large-scale military operation he said Israel was preparing to bring a halt to the rocket fire.


"We're getting close to using our full strength. Until now, we've used a small percentage of the army's power because of the nature of the territory."
Israel would not launch a ground offensive in the next week or two, partly because the military would prefer to wait for better weather, defence sources said. But the army had completed its preparations and was awaiting the government's order to move, officials said.


Until now, the Palestinian rocket squads have largely targeted Sderot, a small town near Gaza. Ashkelon, a big population centre only 25 miles from Tel Aviv, was caught unprepared, its mayor said on Friday.


"It's a city of 120,000 people, with large facilities – a huge soccer stadium, a basketball stadium and a beach. No one is ready for this," Roni Mehatzri told Israel Radio.


Dozens of soldiers in orange berets from the Israeli military's home front command arrived in Ashkelon and hung posters around the city telling residents what to do in case of rocket attack.


The barrage of Iranian-made Grads directed at Ashkelon yesterday came after an escalation of violence in Gaza. Israel killed five Hamas militants on Wednesday morning, apparently including two planners of the rocket attacks, in an air strike on a minivan.


Later in the day, a Palestinian rocket killed an Israeli civilian, a 47-year-old father of four, in Sderot.


Hamas, an Islamist group with close ties to Iran, has ruled Gaza since its violent takeover there in June 2006.


Since Wednesday, 32 Palestinians have been killed by Israeli missile strikes, including 14 civilians, among them eight children, according to Palestinian officials. The youngest was a six-month-old boy, Mohammed al-Borai, whose funeral was held yesterday.


There were further indications that Israel was preparing for an offensive by sending confidential messages to world leaders, including the US secretary of state, Condoleezza Rice, who plans to visit the region next week.


"Israel is not keen on, and rushing for, an offensive, but Hamas is leaving us no choice," the Israeli defence minister, Ehud Barak, told the senior figures, according to Israel's mass circulation daily, Yedioth Ahronoth.


Security sources were quoted by both Israel Radio and army radio as saying a big operation was being prepared but was not imminent.
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just put a bubble over them and let them fight it out themselves
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According to today's Hamilton Spectator, Palestinian McMaster University students were protesting Israeli occupation.

They were confronted by the Jewish Student Federation (or whatever its called).

There was a lot of flag waving and ad hominim insults.

All I can say is I wish they were all just as passionate about being Canadian.
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israel FTL forever
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Old 01-Mar-2008, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by scary.robot
According to today's Hamilton Spectator, Palestinian McMaster University students were protesting Israeli occupation.

They were confronted by the Jewish Student Federation (or whatever its called).

There was a lot of flag waving and ad hominim insults.

All I can say is I wish they were all just as passionate about being Canadian.
Fcukin eh!!!! If you're out, you're out!..Be Canadian here and whatever elsewhere.
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Old 01-Mar-2008, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by birdie92k
Fcukin eh!!!! If you're out, you're out!..Be Canadian here and whatever elsewhere.

lol ^^^ this is the only sentence i see all over and over again, seems like some people are pissed about immmigration, lol i shouldn't have to remind you even people who say this ^^ are not from here.


As for those poeple who quarell over their land elsewhere in the world have been there from the start.

anywas patriotism is down the **** hole anyways, all the wars and dead people, what a waste and people who rally or argue over such things, its all going to slap everyone in the face, when everyone is the same one system 20 years from now.
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Originally Posted by ForSale
lol ^^^ this is the only sentence i see all over and over again, seems like some people are pissed about immmigration, lol i shouldn't have to remind you even people who say this ^^ are not from here.


As for those poeple who quarell over their land elsewhere in the world have been there from the start.

anywas patriotism is down the **** hole anyways, all the wars and dead people, what a waste and people who rally or argue over such things, its all going to slap everyone in the face, when everyone is the same one system 20 years from now.
Interestingly enough..you don't have to remind me because I've only been here 5 years!!!...Immigrated from Guyana. I grew up there so its not even a case where I don't have great bond with my homeland. We came here when I was 18 and I cried my eyes out man. It was very very hard to leave. But the price isn't bad considering I now have a brighter future ahead of me for myself and my family to be. Patriotism is a serious cause of serious wars and I say **** patriotism. You're right that it is being washed up. I say lets help speed that process along. I don't think 20 years is the timeline though. Much longer. People will forever discriminate against those from the third world my friend just as people discriminate against poor people.

My statement still stands though. Be Canadian here and whatever elsewhere...i.e. don't get wound up like a top over that ****. You randomly were born where you were so get over it and don't act like its special....unless you were born in the first world..lol...third worlds can be tough growing up...trust me I know...but its now all bad so don't let it seem as though I'm only bashing it...I love my home country and will always love it but I can also love Canada. That's my decision.

In the end we will all die. We all strive however to die a "happy" death.
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Originally Posted by szuberi
israel FTL forever
Israeli aircraft hit the Gaza City building housing the office of Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh early Sunday, heavily damaging it. The attack follows the deadliest day of Israeli-Palestinian fighting in more than a year. Fifty-two Palestinians have been killed and 200 wounded since Friday in Gaza

I'd say Palestine FTL
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So who's the one throwing the rocks?
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Originally Posted by Jay
Israeli aircraft hit the Gaza City building housing the office of Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh early Sunday, heavily damaging it. The attack follows the deadliest day of Israeli-Palestinian fighting in more than a year. Fifty-two Palestinians have been killed and 200 wounded since Friday in Gaza

I'd say Palestine FTL
if you are bigger and more powerful, sure you can go and mow down the one weaker than you. it just goes to show who really is the troublemaker here. your post makes fun of the bloodshed that recently happened in palestine and the people who died.

for those who really dont understand why those palestine youngsters throw rocks and fight need a lesson in history and perhaps basic common sense. if you are kicked out of your own house, your possessions taken away and fundamental rights threathened, hell yeah you will also start to throw rocks at your enemy.

the onus is on israel and not palestine in this crises..they have the power, military might and US support to do all this bloodshed. they are the ones who have to give......If they wont vacate the occupied land, this will continue forever.
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Originally Posted by szuberi
if you are bigger and more powerful, sure you can go and mow down the one weaker than you. it just goes to show who really is the troublemaker here. your post makes fun of the bloodshed that recently happened in palestine and the people who died.

for those who really dont understand why those palestine youngsters throw rocks and fight need a lesson in history and perhaps basic common sense. if you are kicked out of your own house, your possessions taken away and fundamental rights threathened, hell yeah you will also start to throw rocks at your enemy.

the onus is on israel and not palestine in this crises..they have the power, military might and US support to do all this bloodshed. they are the ones who have to give......If they wont vacate the occupied land, this will continue forever.
^Sal, I agree with you on this.
If the Palestinians had the same military support as the Israelis, it would be a different story.
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