What car would you pick?
 

2000 Civic si/r or 2002 rsx premium? What would you guys pick? Thanks.

If I was going to mod it, the SiR. There is much more aftermarket support for the B16 and the suspension of that car. The RSX Premium has the base K20 and not as much aftermarket support. Also, the Macpherson strut suspension isnt as good as the double wishbone of the SiR and it doesnt have the parts support. I would spend the extra few bucks and get an RSX Type-S.

rsx is a nicer looking car... so I would go with the rsx like ^^ said spend more $$ and get the type s

B16 has been around a lot longer then the K20... so of course there is going to be more after market support

I would like type s. But my choices are only those at the moment because the rsx, i can get for 5 grand since it's at my uncle's dealer shop. The Sir is what I want but he doesn't have any. So i'm debating on those two. What kind of mods can I do to the rsx to get it up to higher hp?

Rsx

intake, headers, exhaust, turbo, cams.... you can do anything to it that you would do to any other honda

True.
All though I know a few people making good power N/A with the A3.
Intake,exhaust,"race" header,K-pro my buddy put down 190whp. Not bad.
Not to mention there are a few people making good cams for the car, BC being one of them.

If you get the RSX with the A3 you can always buy the Jackson Race Supercharger and put down 220+whp on a stock engine.

a jackson race supercharger is $3500... i highly doubt the guy has the money for that... he already said he didn't have money for the type s

The question was what can I do to make power with the base engine..... I gave him some ideas. If you know of better ideas please share with us.
And FTR you can find the Race kit used all the time for around $2000 or under.

Oh here it is.

SiR would be my choice, because of the suspension, engine/transmission, amount of aftermarket support, and modifiability (if that's a word...lol).


Don't supercharge it. If you go forced induction, go turbo. Turbo's are a much better option. Supercharger's are kind of dead-end roads.

For a B or D definetly but I would'nt say that about a K.
People are making lots if power with them and are great for DD.

It doesn't matter what kind of engine you have, turbo's will always be better than sc's.

Doesn't me you can't go sc, and can't make good power with an sc.

The fact is sc's require power from your engine to make power. Turbo's do not. Lag isn't really an issue if the turbo is properly sized and setup for the application.

fully aware of his question, considering I already made a few suggestions... but I am also going along with the fact he doesn't have money floating around. was NEVER going against what you said just merely pointing out the financial situation... no point on giving him suggestions he can't afford

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Rsx. hands down.
you can't lose.

Rsx all day!

Thanks Im fully aware of how Turbos and SC's work.

But do some homework bro and don't be ignorant, K's love to be SC. Not to mention there ten times more reliable then a turbo. Go on EPhatch.com theres guys making close to 300whp on there DD, I would hardly call that not making good power. DD plus reliability is a key factor when driving a car.

i heard k's like bolt-ons the best.








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good intake, race header and an exhaust and you definately feel it.

I'm not being ignorant. I'm just telling the truth.

If guys are getting 300whp from a k with an sc on a dd, thats awsome. Good for them...really. I'm not putting them down in any way.

It's not that it like's sc's better than other engines. Larger engines that make more torque will be able to run sc's more efficiently than smaller low torque engines because of the power required to run an sc. This is why they work well on k motors. not so much for b and d motors. However, even on a k motor, a turbo will still work better, do it's job more efficiently and still be just as reliable.

Turbo's, if done right, are every bit as reliable as sc's.

The sc just failed in our race MR2...wich (with a higher boost pully kit, water to air ic, and megasquirt stand alone and many hours of dyno tuning) was limiting us to how much power we could make (about 170whp currently), mainly because you just can't spin the sc any faster, and it simply is not efficient enough. We've pulled the sc and we're going with a straight turbo setup which will help us make between 250 to 300whp on stock internals/cams...on a 1.6L.

I'm not saying you can't make good power with an sc, but you can do it easier, and just as reliably with a turbo.

SC's work fine, they do their job well. If you want to use them, go ahead. But in the end, to do the same thing, which is force compressed air into an engine, turbo's are more efficient and have more potential than any sc ever will, and are every bit as reliable as an sc if done properly.