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Old 16-Aug-2008, 06:58 PM
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I am not a super experienced driver but from my seat time thus far, 30 seconds seems short to have all these exciting technical corners and whatnot included. 30 seconds sounds like a autox more than track.

Would it be possible for you to draft up a track layout with overall length? Maybe ask some of the track owners (SMP, Mosport, Dunville... etc) and ask them what type of track can be fun and be done in 30 to 40 seconds and how big of a land would you need?
Yeah, I'm planning on drawing up a layout. It will probably have to be longer than a 30sec lap. That was just an estimate.

Ultimately, I'd love to build a replica of tsukuba circuit. But that would be way out of the question. Thats why I want to keep the final corner and straight similar to tsukuba but change the rest of it and shorten it to keep costs down and incorporate the other elements I mentioned before.

As for firetrucks etc... there will be no major events held there. It would be me and some friends, mostly testing out settings and just having fun. There would be safety equipment on sight (first aid kit, fire extinguishers, fire blankets etc...).

When I draw up a layout I'll post it up to see what you guys think.
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to have anything more than a parkinglot auto-x, you really should have a track where you could unwind 3rd gear, which means speeds of 140ish or so... and that makes for a big expensive track.
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this sounds really cool. i have the same dream building a race track somewhere in the GTA with a roofed drag strip and drift courses as well. there will be amature racing contests every summer then it will have a gas station near it plus a bar and hangout area where young people can just talk about cars or something all day but i quickly realized that this ain't gonna happen unless i win like 500M jackpot or something.
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oh, what it is like to be a youngster with dreams like this
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Old 17-Aug-2008, 10:48 AM
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http://www.patricksallaway.com/
http://www.wilsonmotorsport.com/publ...ode/design.htm

Contact some track designers and tell them you are doing a scholl project about track design. Maybe they might give you some info for free.
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oh, what it is like to be a youngster with dreams like this

I think everyone has dreamed of starting their own race track.
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old airfield is a good idea actually, it would have all the zoning taken care of and swm facilities already designed and in place, plus airports are usually built on good ground.
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Old 18-Aug-2008, 08:09 AM
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old airfield is a good idea actually, it would have all the zoning taken care of and swm facilities already designed and in place, plus airports are usually built on good ground.
I would think a race track would use CB to drain rather than SWM as a collection tool? The best would be building it next to a woodlot (and owning that woodlot, too) and sheet drain everything there, I would believe.
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old airfield is a good idea actually, it would have all the zoning taken care of and swm facilities already designed and in place, plus airports are usually built on good ground.
haha top gear style
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old airfield is a good idea actually, it would have all the zoning taken care of and swm facilities already designed and in place, plus airports are usually built on good ground.
Like TMP & Dunnville...
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Old 18-Aug-2008, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Nova_Dust
I would think a race track would use CB to drain rather than SWM as a collection tool?
lol swm = storm water management
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Old 18-Aug-2008, 01:55 PM
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I know SWM is storm water management. I believe it is better used in bigger areas such as subdivision or a water filtration facility as oppose to a race track. To have a SWM with lower elevation around a race track, to me, is rather dangerous if a car gets lost control and slides out towards it.

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I am reading your thread one more time and perhaps I misunderstood your point. Indeed, a SWM would have to go in before anything gets developed in the first place so the new facility could be designed to match existing elevations - if that is what you meant. I thought you were suggesting to build a SWM as part of the track layout.

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Old 18-Aug-2008, 04:25 PM
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ok, so here's a first rough drawing idea. The drawing is all to scale. The track is 20ft wide (to start) and the front straight is 700ft long. It also uses many multiple routs to keep things interesting. There are S-bends, a tight hair-pin, double apex corners, and a couple high-speed corners.



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Old 18-Aug-2008, 05:11 PM
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here are the steps you should be taking before considering this

1) win lotto super 7
2) marry a native canadian (theres a reason why all the tracks are on native land)

only after you've completed the first 2 steps, should you consider making a thread like this
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Originally Posted by MPR
ok, so here's a first rough drawing idea. The drawing is all to scale. The track is 20ft wide (to start) and the front straight is 700ft long. It also uses many multiple routs to keep things interesting. There are S-bends, a tight hair-pin, double apex corners, and a couple high-speed corners.



Thoughts?


Thanks.
you need at least 15 acres for that.

if you need tender estimate let me know. I can make a rough estimate for labour/material based on today's prices

you should make the back straight, "straight"

should be able to fit a "Dry pond" in the 360, need sandy land

ps. you're missing a high speed sweeper
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Old 18-Aug-2008, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Nova_Dust
I know SWM is storm water management. I believe it is better used in bigger areas such as subdivision or a water filtration facility as oppose to a race track. To have a SWM with lower elevation around a race track, to me, is rather dangerous if a car gets lost control and slides out towards it.

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I am reading your thread one more time and perhaps I misunderstood your point. Indeed, a SWM would have to go in before anything gets developed in the first place so the new facility could be designed to match existing elevations - if that is what you meant. I thought you were suggesting to build a SWM as part of the track layout.
swm is required for any development that creates impermeable surfaces, basically the requirement is that you have to reduce the run-off to pre-developmet levels.
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that track has no flow at all, the pit is in the wrong place and your multiple routes make no sense...like whats that round about in the middle, it basically goes nowhere
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looks pretty cool...but ya, not going to be remotely cheap...
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Originally Posted by MrX
swm is required for any development that creates impermeable surfaces, basically the requirement is that you have to reduce the run-off to pre-developmet levels.
True, and also helps to reduce run-off speed from upper land to lake level. I take I am speaking to a Civil Engineer or someone who is in the field of construction?
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Originally Posted by MrX
you need at least 15 acres for that.

if you need tender estimate let me know. I can make a rough estimate for labour/material based on today's prices

you should make the back straight, "straight"

should be able to fit a "Dry pond" in the 360, need sandy land

ps. you're missing a high speed sweeper
If there is a tender estimate and when possible, I would like to take a look at this as well. I am always in need of current construction costs on various items, such as asphalt, excavation, concrete and whatnot.

Thanks.
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