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Old 13-Nov-2005, 10:34 PM
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where to find a licensed appraiser to appraise my car.

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Iam looking to get my car appraised for my insurance company. I have found a few appraisers in the yellow pages, some mostly deal with classics and muscle cars but other say they do newer and sportcomapact cars. I want an appraiser that knows what sportcompact or “done up” aftermarket car parts cost and what the cars sell for. I don’t want someone that only really knows what classics and muscle cars are worth, someone that can tell the difference between a stock and aftermarket bumper and so on.

Dose anyone know of an licensed appraiser that my insurance company will except that deals with sportcompact or “done up” cars

i asked my insurnace comapny about the appariser they didnt have a list of them they only said to get a licensed one

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Old 13-Nov-2005, 11:43 PM
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I got my appraisal done through Maurice Bramhall, my family has had him appraise all of our cars for the last 15 years, the 2 cars that got written off we got full value back from because of him. Heres his website



http://www.bramclassauto.com/appraisals.php
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I recently got my car appraised from Automotive Appraisal. He is listed in the yellow pages. I did it for insurance purposes as well. He only charged $140 and he goes to where ever your car is located. Which isn't bad compared to most of the prices I've found. He says he is licenced so the reports can be used for insurance purposes.

In my opinion, he doesn't seem to know his stuff. For instance, he asked me what the value of my car is when I got it stock. I would think that an appraiser would know the value of a stock car. But I told him what I thought the value of my should be with the mods and that is what he put down. So it worked out in the end.

If you are in a rush to get the report, you might also want to ask how long it takes the appraiser to write one up.

xerman2001, what insurance company are you with man?
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Originally posted by droppedatbirth
I recently got my car appraised from Automotive Appraisal. He is listed in the yellow pages. I did it for insurance purposes as well. He only charged $140 and he goes to where ever your car is located. Which isn't bad compared to most of the prices I've found. He says he is licenced so the reports can be used for insurance purposes.

In my opinion, he doesn't seem to know his stuff. For instance, he asked me what the value of my car is when I got it stock. I would think that an appraiser would know the value of a stock car. But I told him what I thought the value of my should be with the mods and that is what he put down. So it worked out in the end.

If you are in a rush to get the report, you might also want to ask how long it takes the appraiser to write one up.

xerman2001, what insurance company are you with man?
When you are getting an appraisal done you or the appraiser should never be in a hurry, its best to take as much time as possible to ensure you dont miss anything and also to get detailed info. I wouldnt trust alot of these appraisal services that have popped up in the yellow pages personally because I can tell you for a fact that alot of them wont hold up when something happens to your vehicle. I know from 2 seperate experiences that my family has had when a vehicle has been written off that we have gotten the full appraised value back for our cars because our appraiser, Maurice Bramhall, is well respected in this industry and is also well known so when he does an appraisal he is very thurough and accurate to ensure that you are totally covered for the full value of the car. In the end you get what you pay for with anything IMO and when I have gone and put thousands of dollars into my car I would rather go pay an additional couple hundred to be sure I will get it all back later should something happen.
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Well, I'm satisfied with the value that he wrote down even though he didn't seem very knowledgable. It should cover my car for the most part.

If you're looking for a knowledgeable appraiser I wouldn't recommend him. If you're looking for someone that is flexible with what goes down on paper then he should be all right.
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with getting an appraisal, if your car is modded and you don't tell your insurance, you would still only get back the value of the stock car right?

like if you have $4000 mods to a $7000 car, insurance would not give you $11,000, you'd only get the $7000 if your lucky right? that is before they cancel you for mods and **** you over real good
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Originally posted by alwaysoverkill
with getting an appraisal, if your car is modded and you don't tell your insurance, you would still only get back the value of the stock car right?

like if you have $4000 mods to a $7000 car, insurance would not give you $11,000, you'd only get the $7000 if your lucky right? that is before they cancel you for mods and **** you over real good
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Originally posted by alwaysoverkill
with getting an appraisal, if your car is modded and you don't tell your insurance, you would still only get back the value of the stock car right?

like if you have $4000 mods to a $7000 car, insurance would not give you $11,000, you'd only get the $7000 if your lucky right? that is before they cancel you for mods and **** you over real good
Most insurance companies will properly deny your claim. So they may not even pay you for the value of your car. As far as I know you must notify the insurance company of any "material change". You might want to ask your broker and find out for sure.

I know with my insurance company that I must notify the insurance company of any "material change". I always thought insurance companies didn't care what mods you have unless you don't change the compression ratio of the car or anything to make your car go faster until I thoroughly read the paper that was signed at the time.
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ya. i've been thinking of calling and asking theoritically, if i do coilovers, rear sway bar and racing seat, would i still be covered. i'm with statefarm and i've heard they are the worst for mods...thats why the call would be theoritically, hehe.

i've been thinking of appraisal because insurance are ****ers, would surprise me if they said my 1999 1.6EL is a $3000 car, i may call up some appraisers just to have the paper for the just in case.
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Old 14-Nov-2005, 12:59 AM
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Yeah, ALWAYS go theoretical. When I call insurance companies for INFORMATION or QUOTES I always give fake names and address because it goes onto their database. If I like what I hear then I call them back with the real information.

It's not any good getting your car appraised without tell the insurance company. The insurance company would probably not look at the appraisal when you make a claim because they'll say that they didn't know about it. This goes back to my point where insurance companies want to be notified of material change. The catch is when you notify them they will properly cancel your policy because they don't want to insure a car that has been modified to change the engineering of a car. This applies to most insurance companies.

There are companies other that will insure modified vehicles and you can do whatever to your car. But you'll be paying a bit more in premium. I think paying a little more in insurance is not that big of a deal compared to giving an insurance company false information and having them cancel you when your are making a major claim.
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i have been with my insurance company for 6 years, it was called CIBC then CERTAS

iam not going to tell them or the appraiser about the lowering spings, no performance mods, only apperance mods. i dont have anything that would make it unsafe
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Old 15-Nov-2005, 12:29 AM
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Originally posted by xerman2001
i have been with my insurance company for 6 years, it was called CIBC then CERTAS

iam not going to tell them or the appraiser about the lowering spings, no performance mods, only apperance mods. i dont have anything that would make it unsafe
haha, but do they agree with you? insurance will do anything to get out of paying out a claim, so i woudln't be surprised if after an accident they say it was modified, your policy is cancelled therby jacking your rates skyhigh. thats what i'm woried about with mine.
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Old 15-Nov-2005, 04:44 PM
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Alwaysoverkill, I called State Farm yesterday. I got a pretty good quote from them if my car is stock. It's even better than Meloche Monnex with my group discount. But with my lowered suspension they wouldn't insure it. So I'm probably going to go with Facility, which is a high risk mark. I'm going to be paying a little more then what I'm already paying but I figure it's worth it in the end.

Just because a car is lowered does not mean it's unsafe. If I were to get my car certified again I properly pass with flying colours. Insurance companies view certain modification fitting the stereotype of racing. Regardless if it's on the track or the street. Insurance companies will not insure a car even if it is for track use.
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Old 15-Nov-2005, 11:36 PM
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Insurance companies in Ontario have made their own rules, they dont accept modified cars anymore PERIOD, with some companies you might be able to get away with aftermarket wheels, put any "performance" parts, change any bumper etc and they find out you will be cancelled, your wasting your time by getting an appraisal. Once you hand that over to your insurance company you will be cancelled and good luck getting insurance after that. Another example of the failings of our moronic government.
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Old 15-Nov-2005, 11:39 PM
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Originally posted by droppedatbirth
Yeah, ALWAYS go theoretical. When I call insurance companies for INFORMATION or QUOTES I always give fake names and address because it goes onto their database. If I like what I hear then I call them back with the real information.

It's not any good getting your car appraised without tell the insurance company. The insurance company would probably not look at the appraisal when you make a claim because they'll say that they didn't know about it. This goes back to my point where insurance companies want to be notified of material change. The catch is when you notify them they will properly cancel your policy because they don't want to insure a car that has been modified to change the engineering of a car. This applies to most insurance companies.

There are companies other that will insure modified vehicles and you can do whatever to your car. But you'll be paying a bit more in premium. I think paying a little more in insurance is not that big of a deal compared to giving an insurance company false information and having them cancel you when your are making a major claim.
where are these companies that accept mods for a higher premium? im pretty sure thats not true
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what if u were to only get ur body and interior appraised? and also when u say modded how far do u mean to go before they say no dice?
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thats brutal. I understand why, yet again a few dumbasses have ruined it for the rest of us (Street racing) but its brutal.

a prime example, I ask my statefarm agent, hey I got an alarm professionally installed, will my comp go down. nope dosen't matter, funny...I though an alarm made my car lower risk, its all about money and money only with insurance.

I'll just run my suspension and if an accident, i'll have to swap it back before insurance adjusted looks at it. its too bad things can't be done the honest way and i'm even willing to pay extra for that but they don't care i guess.

Thats where the appraisal comes in, whats this car worth stock...cause if something happened, thats the way they'd see it with tinted windows of course since that can't be taken off fast like susp
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Originally posted by MugenJDMCRX
Insurance companies in Ontario have made their own rules, they dont accept modified cars anymore PERIOD, with some companies you might be able to get away with aftermarket wheels, put any "performance" parts, change any bumper etc and they find out you will be cancelled, your wasting your time by getting an appraisal. Once you hand that over to your insurance company you will be cancelled and good luck getting insurance after that. Another example of the failings of our moronic government.
Untrue, my insurance company knows about all the mods on my car in detail and didint raise my rate or cancel me.
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what company thrill house? if they or any other company will insure me with basic mods, i'll pay higher to get that. and if one will cover the mods too, then i've hit the jackpot.
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Originally posted by MugenJDMCRX

where are these companies that accept mods for a higher premium? im pretty sure thats not true

Call a broker and ask for Facility. They're the number one insurance company for high risk drivers (modded cars belong to this category).

I've heard Dominion, Perth and Pembridge might insure modified vehicles. But they will only insure a vehicle to a certain extent.
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