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Old 19-Jul-2004, 09:39 PM
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I just notice it's illegal to wear harness seat belts. This morning I was the unlucky one chosen by the DAMN cops. I was wearing the harness seatbelts when a cruiser creep up from behind(about the blind spot area on the passenger side) the i got pull over and he said" he DIDN'T see me wearing the seatbelt","I said I was wearing it", but he's the cop no point of argueing with him or he'll charge me something else. So I got a ticket saying DRIVER FAIL TO WEAR complete SEATBELT ASSEMBLY. $110 fine.

Here is some stuff u'll give tickets for.
1-Racing harness is illegal in ONTARIO. (guys when u put them in car, alway have stock belts or they will tow.
2-Front end lights have to be white or amber(signals, fogs, markers. (About a $200 fine)
3-Undercar neon and any sort of neon is legal only when the vehicle in not in MOTION.
4-Those blueist licence plate cover. ( My friend got a ticket for that, I think it was about $100)
5-And I think they will get u for HID KITS, if it's not factory.
6-I heard any mods is illegal too. (larger rims, lowered suspension, aftermarket wings, etc...
that's all i can think of. Thanks
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Old 19-Jul-2004, 09:55 PM
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Thanks for the heads up about the seatbelts.
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Old 19-Jul-2004, 09:57 PM
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Exactly, "unlucky" means occasionally.
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Old 19-Jul-2004, 10:19 PM
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ummm yeah ok then.....maybe one day I'll get around to installing the buckle portion of the seat belt back into my car however even with it installed properly with the changed seat there is absolutely no way the stock seat belt would do me any good anyways...
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I hate when stock seatbelts rub my shoulder area... makes the fabric faded... :P
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isn't it possible to get your car approved or safetied with those if installed and inspected provincially or sumtin?
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Old 20-Jul-2004, 04:50 AM
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that sounds about right by cop standards... give tickets to the kid who make there car safer

although not to say you did... but i could imagine a lot of kids going out getting a cheap non-approved seat and a cheap hardness and tieing it all to the floor.... i guess thats why... damn kids who drove honda's ruin it for us all
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Old 20-Jul-2004, 10:21 AM
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I wonder if this only apply in ontario...since im moving to mtl and all mind you they dont hasstle drivers there period..anythgin is pretty much fair game. noone races on the roads there because there are too many pot holes lol it sux having a lowerd vehicle there roads are brutal...
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Montreal is the coolest. They doni't give a **** about anything.

I've never heard of people getting ticketed for rims.
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Old 20-Jul-2004, 10:58 AM
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uhh...who the hell has ever got a ticket for wheels here? unless the car is too low and the tires are rubbing...
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Re: warning club members

Originally posted by 2001MugenITR
posted July 19, 2004 09:36 PM
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I just notice it's illegal to wear harness seat belts. This morning I was the unlucky one chosen by the DAMN cops. I was wearing the harness seatbelts when a cruiser creep up from behind(about the blind spot area on the passenger side) the i got pull over and he said" he DIDN'T see me wearing the seatbelt","I said I was wearing it", but he's the cop no point of argueing with him or he'll charge me something else. So I got a ticket saying DRIVER FAIL TO WEAR complete SEATBELT ASSEMBLY. $110 fine.

Here is some stuff u'll give tickets for.
1-Racing harness is illegal in ONTARIO. (guys when u put them in car, alway have stock belts or they will tow.
2-Front end lights have to be white or amber(signals, fogs, markers. (About a $200 fine)
3-Undercar neon and any sort of neon is legal only when the vehicle in not in MOTION.
4-Those blueist licence plate cover. ( My friend got a ticket for that, I think it was about $100)
5-And I think they will get u for HID KITS, if it's not factory.
6-I heard any mods is illegal too. (larger rims, lowered suspension, aftermarket wings, etc...
that's all i can think of. Thanks

you need to be more informed about certain things, HID kits won't always get you tickets, any mods aren't illegal, so what about ppl who get steelies for their winter tires are they gonna get tickets too? lowered suspensions aren't always gonna be tickets unless you're too low by your post here everything is illegal unless it's stock....?

front end lights are only a 110 fine, same with most of the things you've described... because they're non moving violations.

And seatbelt harnesses are only illegal if they're not attached properly... info is alright, correct info is 10x better!
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isnt the ticket for no seat belt demerit points too?? Make sure u fight it unless u wanna see ur insurance premiums increase.
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cops give bull**** tickets ...
you have to take the time to go and fight them !
they are relying on the fact that you'll just take like champ , and PAY ....
***** that i fight everyticket and i'd say 80% of tickets get tossed or reduced ...

as for some of the things mentioned above u really need to do some research as alot of those things u can't get a ticket for !
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I fought a ticket for the 5 points i had in my jeep got the cops really pissed off. All i did was get statitics for stats can and stats from racing including speeds of impact and such and proved that i was improving the safety of my vehicle for myself and not indangering anyone by doing it!

Definition, “seat belt assembly”

106. (1) In this section,

“seat belt assembly” means a device or assembly composed of straps, webbing or similar material that restrains the movement of a person in order to prevent or mitigate injury to the person and includes a pelvic restraint or an upper torso restraint or both of them. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 106 (1).

Where required by federal law

(2) No person shall drive on a highway a motor vehicle in which a seat belt assembly required under the Motor Vehicle Safety Act (Canada) at the time that the vehicle was manufactured or imported into Canada has been removed, rendered partly or wholly inoperative, modified so as to reduce its effectiveness or is not operating properly through lack of maintenance. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 106 (2).

Use of seat belt assembly by driver

(3) Subject to subsection (5), every person who drives on a highway a motor vehicle in which a seat belt assembly is provided for the driver shall wear the complete seat belt assembly in a properly adjusted and securely fastened manner. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 106 (3).

Note: On a day to be named by proclamation of the Lieutenant Governor, subsection (3) is amended by the Statutes of Ontario, 1996, chapter 20, subsection 22 (1) by striking out “Subject to subsection (5)”. See: 1996, c. 20, ss. 22 (1), 32.

Use of seat belt assembly by passenger

(4) Subject to subsection (5), every person who is a passenger on a highway in a motor vehicle in which a seat belt assembly is provided for the seating position occupied by the passenger shall wear the complete seat belt assembly in a properly adjusted and securely fastened manner. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 106 (4).

Note: On a day to be named by proclamation of the Lieutenant Governor, subsection (4) is amended by the Statutes of Ontario, 1996, chapter 20, subsection 22 (2) by striking out “Subject to subsection (5), every person” and substituting “Every person who is sixteen years of age or over and”. See: 1996, c. 20, ss. 22 (2), 32.

Exemption

(5) Subsections (3) and (4) do not apply to a person,

(a) driving a motor vehicle in reverse;

(b) who holds a certificate signed by a legally qualified medical practitioner certifying that the person is,

(i) for the period stated in the certificate, unable for medical reasons to wear a seat belt assembly, or

(ii) because of the person’s size, build or other physical characteristic, unable to wear a seat belt assembly;

(c) who is actually engaged in work which requires him or her to alight from and re-enter a motor vehicle at frequent intervals and who, while engaged in the work, does not drive or travel in that vehicle at a speed exceeding 40 kilometres per hour; or

(d) under the age of sixteen years. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 106 (5).

Note: On a day to be named by proclamation of the Lieutenant Governor, subsection (5) is repealed by the Statutes of Ontario, 1996, chapter 20, subsection 22 (3).See: 1996, c. 20, ss. 22 (3), 32.

Driver to ensure passenger uses seat belt assembly

(6) No person shall drive on a highway a motor vehicle in which there is a passenger who is under sixteen years of age and occupies a seating position for which a seat belt assembly has been provided unless that passenger is wearing the complete seat belt assembly and it is properly adjusted and securely fastened. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 106 (6).

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(7) No person shall drive a motor vehicle on a highway in which there is a child passenger weighing less than twenty-three kilograms who does not occupy, if available, a seating position for which a seat belt assembly is provided. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 106 (7).

Exception

(8) Subsection (6) does not apply where the passenger,

(a) is the holder of a certificate signed by a legally qualified medical practitioner certifying that the passenger is,

(i) for the period stated in the certificate, unable for medical reasons to wear a seat belt assembly, or

(ii) because of the passenger’s size, build or other physical characteristic, unable to wear a seat belt assembly;

(b) is actually engaged in work which requires him or her to alight from and re-enter the motor vehicle at frequent intervals and the motor vehicle does not travel at a speed exceeding 40 kilometres per hour; or

(c) is secured in the manner prescribed by the regulations. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 106 (8).

Note: On a day to be named by proclamation of the Lieutenant Governor, subsection (8) is repealed by the Statutes of Ontario, 1996, chapter 20, subsection 22 (4) and the following substituted:

Police may request passenger’s identification

(8) A police officer or officer appointed for carrying out the provisions of this Act may request that a passenger in a motor vehicle who appears to be at least 16 years old identify himself or herself if the officer has reason to believe that the passenger is contravening this section or the regulations made under this section. 1996, c. 20, s. 22 (4).

Same

(8.1) A passenger who is requested to identify himself or herself under subsection (8) shall give the officer reasonable identification of himself or herself and, for such purposes, giving his or her correct name and address is reasonable identification. 1996, c. 20, s. 22 (4).

See: 1996, c. 20, ss. 22 (4), 32.

Regulations

(9) The Lieutenant Governor in Council may make regulations,

(a) requiring the use of child seating and restraint systems in motor vehicles on highways and prescribing the specifications thereof;

(b) governing the use of different child seating and restraint systems based on the birth date, age, height or weight of a child or the relationship of a child to the driver or owner of the motor vehicle and prescribing, or adopting by reference manufacturer’s recommendations concerning, the manner in which a child is to be secured therein;

(c) prescribing classes of motor vehicles, drivers and passengers;

(d) adopting by reference, in part or in whole, any code, standards or specification concerning child restraint systems;

(e) exempting from any of the provisions of this section or the regulations made under this section,

(i) any class of motor vehicle,

(ii) any class of driver or passenger, or

(iii) drivers carrying any prescribed class of passenger,

and prescribing conditions for any such exemption. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 106 (9).
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Old 22-Jul-2004, 01:49 AM
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No cops have ever hastled me about my blue plate covers....
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No cops have ever hastled me about my blue plate covers....
You're kidding me. Don't tell me that cute young girls don't get tickets. Nah... that would be unfair.

Cops generally will leave you alone if you're a girl. They won't pull you over in the first place and they won't give you tickets unless you deserve them. My little sister gets away with warnings on speeding tickets all the time. The cop walks up to the window, checks her license and tells her she should slow down and that he won't give her a ticket because it's her first offence. This has happened 3 times in the 4 years she's been driving (and it's still her first offence every time the cop checks).

Tickets like license plate covers are complete bs and are handed out to people who the cops want to ticket. Minivans with blue covers don't get pulled over, guys with hats on sideways in modded Civics with the stereo blasting, well you know they're getting the ticket. You fall somewhere in the middle.
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You're kidding me. Don't tell me that cute young girls don't get tickets. Nah... that would be unfair.

Cops generally will leave you alone if you're a girl. They won't pull you over in the first place and they won't give you tickets unless you deserve them. My little sister gets away with warnings on speeding tickets all the time. The cop walks up to the window, checks her license and tells her she should slow down and that he won't give her a ticket because it's her first offence. This has happened 3 times in the 4 years she's been driving (and it's still her first offence every time the cop checks).

Tickets like license plate covers are complete bs and are handed out to people who the cops want to ticket. Minivans with blue covers don't get pulled over, guys with hats on sideways in modded Civics with the stereo blasting, well you know they're getting the ticket. You fall somewhere in the middle.
That's so true my sis drives a pink Del Sol and she has never got a ticket for anything like Mods or traffic tickets and she's been stoped 3 times for different tickets and never actualy got one?? Now where is the justice??? How come I don't get that treatment?
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cuz u dont dont look good and have ****.
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Will You get a ticket for having a motor swap or mods done to ur engine???
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