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16-Apr-2002, 10:40 PM
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Remote Starters
I was just thinking about this. Usually you need to disengage the clutch before you start the car. How does a remote starter do this? Does it somehow bypass it?
16-Apr-2002, 10:53 PM
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I think it's just a wire you need to cut, so that the clutch pedal doesn't have to be down to start the car. Just make sure the shifter is in neutral and your handbrake is up when you push the remote, otherwise the car will drive off on it's own. 
btw, I have a remote starter for my but I never use it.
btw, I have a remote starter for my but I never use it.
17-Apr-2002, 12:38 AM
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i read something last night, it's about the clutch bypass.
from what i read, it's a plug that connects a switch on the clutch, and if you unplug that switch and short the connection on the plug, you can do without pressing the clutch when you start your car. that's one way in doing it.
the other way is use a relay to have the switch make contact when you start your car remotely. this way, you still retain the clutch in start car function. i am sure the place who do the install can figure something out.
from what i read, it's a plug that connects a switch on the clutch, and if you unplug that switch and short the connection on the plug, you can do without pressing the clutch when you start your car. that's one way in doing it.
the other way is use a relay to have the switch make contact when you start your car remotely. this way, you still retain the clutch in start car function. i am sure the place who do the install can figure something out.
17-Apr-2002, 01:03 AM
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Originally posted by Jugglez
I think it's just a wire you need to cut, so that the clutch pedal doesn't have to be down to start the car. Just make sure the shifter is in neutral and your handbrake is up when you push the remote, otherwise the car will drive off on it's own.
btw, I have a remote starter for my but I never use it.
I think it's just a wire you need to cut, so that the clutch pedal doesn't have to be down to start the car. Just make sure the shifter is in neutral and your handbrake is up when you push the remote, otherwise the car will drive off on it's own.
btw, I have a remote starter for my but I never use it.
17-Apr-2002, 03:51 AM
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Originally posted by amuse
i read something last night, it's about the clutch bypass.
from what i read, it's a plug that connects a switch on the clutch, and if you unplug that switch and short the connection on the plug, you can do without pressing the clutch when you start your car. that's one way in doing it.
the other way is use a relay to have the switch make contact when you start your car remotely. this way, you still retain the clutch in start car function. i am sure the place who do the install can figure something out.
i read something last night, it's about the clutch bypass.
from what i read, it's a plug that connects a switch on the clutch, and if you unplug that switch and short the connection on the plug, you can do without pressing the clutch when you start your car. that's one way in doing it.
the other way is use a relay to have the switch make contact when you start your car remotely. this way, you still retain the clutch in start car function. i am sure the place who do the install can figure something out.
17-Apr-2002, 03:53 AM
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Originally posted by ryuujin
actually you know what? I know that if you don't have the shifter in neutral it won't start at all...so you have no worries of it moving or not
actually you know what? I know that if you don't have the shifter in neutral it won't start at all...so you have no worries of it moving or not
17-Apr-2002, 04:05 AM
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Originally posted by Slvr-Bullet
To activate the remote starter feature you MUST have it in neutral otherwise it just won't work. That's the safety feature of remote starters for manual cars.
To activate the remote starter feature you MUST have it in neutral otherwise it just won't work. That's the safety feature of remote starters for manual cars.
17-Apr-2002, 07:43 AM
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Originally posted by ryuujin
actually you know what? I know that if you don't have the shifter in neutral it won't start at all...so you have no worries of it moving or not
actually you know what? I know that if you don't have the shifter in neutral it won't start at all...so you have no worries of it moving or not
17-Apr-2002, 07:44 AM
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Originally posted by amuse
so how does the remote starter knows if the car is in neutral or not? i mean is there some kind of signal that the car gives if it's in gear?
so how does the remote starter knows if the car is in neutral or not? i mean is there some kind of signal that the car gives if it's in gear?
22-Jan-2003, 09:33 AM
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Like he said?
"so how does the remote starter knows if the car is in neutral or not? i mean is there some kind of signal that the car gives if it's in gear?"
My friends motorbike had a netrual indicator switch... a wire that became powered when the bike was in neutral...
Do honda cars have this sort of thing? I see some wires coming out of the tranny, maybe these are the wires?
My friends motorbike had a netrual indicator switch... a wire that became powered when the bike was in neutral...
Do honda cars have this sort of thing? I see some wires coming out of the tranny, maybe these are the wires?
22-Jan-2003, 10:18 AM
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i have a compustar and in order for my remote starter to work i have to activate the reservation mode. meaning i have a sequence to do before autostart will work. upon finishing my driving, i have press brake and than hand break. at this time, you are usually in neutral so your not in gear. you remove the key, the car is still running and upon the last door closure, the car turns off and you have just activated reservation mode and you can now autostart. but if you were to open the door, the reservation mode will be de-activated and you would have to start manually. that's my safety mechanism for remote starting in gear.
22-Jan-2003, 10:35 AM
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The one I have is a little better.
1. Park car in neutral w/e-brake on/up. Do not leave foot on brake and/or gas otherwise cannot activate remote start function.
2. Press key fob button to activate remote start. Car remains on.
3. Take keys out.
4. Close door(s).
5. Arm alarm and car shuts off and is ready for remote start.
Now if I forget something inside my car I can either disarm my car and retrieve whatever. But that means I can't remote start my car because the feature has been disabled by unarming it.
Orrrrrrr, remote start my car, disarm the alarm, grab whatever I forgot, close the door, arm the alarm and press the button that remote starts my car again. Car shuts down and is ready for remote start again. Saves the hassle of starting the car manually and going through the whole sequence again
1. Park car in neutral w/e-brake on/up. Do not leave foot on brake and/or gas otherwise cannot activate remote start function.
2. Press key fob button to activate remote start. Car remains on.
3. Take keys out.
4. Close door(s).
5. Arm alarm and car shuts off and is ready for remote start.
Now if I forget something inside my car I can either disarm my car and retrieve whatever. But that means I can't remote start my car because the feature has been disabled by unarming it.
Orrrrrrr, remote start my car, disarm the alarm, grab whatever I forgot, close the door, arm the alarm and press the button that remote starts my car again. Car shuts down and is ready for remote start again. Saves the hassle of starting the car manually and going through the whole sequence again
22-Jan-2003, 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by nautica_t
i have a compustar and in order for my remote starter to work i have to activate the reservation mode. meaning i have a sequence to do before autostart will work. upon finishing my driving, i have press brake and than hand break. at this time, you are usually in neutral so your not in gear. you remove the key, the car is still running and upon the last door closure, the car turns off and you have just activated reservation mode and you can now autostart. but if you were to open the door, the reservation mode will be de-activated and you would have to start manually. that's my safety mechanism for remote starting in gear.
i have a compustar and in order for my remote starter to work i have to activate the reservation mode. meaning i have a sequence to do before autostart will work. upon finishing my driving, i have press brake and than hand break. at this time, you are usually in neutral so your not in gear. you remove the key, the car is still running and upon the last door closure, the car turns off and you have just activated reservation mode and you can now autostart. but if you were to open the door, the reservation mode will be de-activated and you would have to start manually. that's my safety mechanism for remote starting in gear.
23-Jan-2003, 03:13 AM
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Originally posted by Jugglez
Well it depends on how the system was installed. On my car, if the shifter is in gear, and you push the remote, the car WILL drive off on its own. Trust me I found out the hard way.
Well it depends on how the system was installed. On my car, if the shifter is in gear, and you push the remote, the car WILL drive off on its own. Trust me I found out the hard way.
. It seem's they've installed an automatic remote starter on a manual car! Highly dangerous and illigel. UNLESS it's a real old school starter that works with magnet's on the shifter. What happens is the magnet's fall off and the brain doesn't know if it's in gear or not. Since no the magnet fell off the circit doesn't close so it think's it's in neutral and will start! But it's more than likely the first scenario! Who installed the starter for you?
24-Jan-2003, 08:07 PM
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Re: sounds great, what make of alarm/starter is it?
Originally posted by johnny23toronto
sounds great, what make of alarm/starter is it?
I'm looking for one soon.
sounds great, what make of alarm/starter is it?
I'm looking for one soon.
Compustar is the one I would trust. All the others out there, are just poor copies of this alarn/stater.
24-Jan-2003, 09:09 PM
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yeah that's the same concept for me as well. the minute i disarm and open my doors, it de-activates my reservation mode. i can no longer remote start. but if i do want to, i would have to the same thing you whould do. remote start it, than disarm grab my stuff close door arm and deactivate remote start.
yeah that's the same concept for me as well. the minute i disarm and open my doors, it de-activates my reservation mode. i can no longer remote start. but if i do want to, i would have to the same thing you whould do. remote start it, than disarm grab my stuff close door arm and deactivate remote start.
25-Jan-2003, 01:21 AM
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Originally posted by nautica_t
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yeah that's the same concept for me as well. the minute i disarm and open my doors, it de-activates my reservation mode. i can no longer remote start. but if i do want to, i would have to the same thing you whould do. remote start it, than disarm grab my stuff close door arm and deactivate remote start.
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yeah that's the same concept for me as well. the minute i disarm and open my doors, it de-activates my reservation mode. i can no longer remote start. but if i do want to, i would have to the same thing you whould do. remote start it, than disarm grab my stuff close door arm and deactivate remote start.
The alarm doesn't know if after you set it up for remote start, that if you return, and open the door to get something, that you might have accidentaly moved the shift **** into a gear. This way, it is almost IMMPOSIBLE to start it with in being in gear. It's a saftey feature with the Compustar. It also heps when you give the car to a valet....there is no way for it to start that way either......unless the valet knows how to put it into "resevation" mode.
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