why would i be rubbing?
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21-Apr-2003, 07:34 PM
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Well since I have no idea what car these are on or the year I’ll take a shot in the dark
Assuming it's an older civic and it's rubbing in the rear
Have you checked to see if there was any Shims put in when the previous owner did an alignment?
Assuming it's an older civic and it's rubbing in the rear
Have you checked to see if there was any Shims put in when the previous owner did an alignment?
22-Apr-2003, 09:11 AM
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offset is to blame... and since you have less offset than should be 38 vs 40mm you can just have them shaved or simply sell them... 2 mm is just enough to cause problems. I'd say you're rubbing on the clip that holds the wheel liner at the top, and maybe a little bit on the middle of the front part of the liner, maybe just a bit at full lock and some compression.... I don't think you are rubbing in the back, though if you are... it'll be on that damn black strip which you can just remove. I recommend shaving your wheels or going to a 195/50/16 tire. That is assuming all else fails (like the alignment). Question: Does your wheel self-center after taking a corner?? You know, like when the steering wheel spins back by itself if you let it go... that's a HUGE indication of steering/susp geometry.
22-Apr-2003, 09:23 AM
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Originally posted by bbarbulo
offset is to blame... and since you have less offset than should be 38 vs 40mm you can just have them shaved or simply sell them... 2 mm is just enough to cause problems. I'd say you're rubbing on the clip that holds the wheel liner at the top, and maybe a little bit on the middle of the front part of the liner, maybe just a bit at full lock and some compression.... I don't think you are rubbing in the back, though if you are... it'll be on that damn black strip which you can just remove. I recommend shaving your wheels or going to a 195/50/16 tire. That is assuming all else fails (like the alignment). Question: Does your wheel self-center after taking a corner?? You know, like when the steering wheel spins back by itself if you let it go... that's a HUGE indication of steering/susp geometry.
offset is to blame... and since you have less offset than should be 38 vs 40mm you can just have them shaved or simply sell them... 2 mm is just enough to cause problems. I'd say you're rubbing on the clip that holds the wheel liner at the top, and maybe a little bit on the middle of the front part of the liner, maybe just a bit at full lock and some compression.... I don't think you are rubbing in the back, though if you are... it'll be on that damn black strip which you can just remove. I recommend shaving your wheels or going to a 195/50/16 tire. That is assuming all else fails (like the alignment). Question: Does your wheel self-center after taking a corner?? You know, like when the steering wheel spins back by itself if you let it go... that's a HUGE indication of steering/susp geometry.
not to sound ungreatful.... but where the hell have you been?
as for your advive.... thanks
...i'll try removing the black strip and see if that makes a difference.... BTW: what's the process in shaving the wheels?
22-Apr-2003, 10:27 AM
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Sorry cosmic, I had a few days off work (fri and mon), so I put a new roof on my house, tore the deck out, and put new windows in all around. Hope I didn't inconvenience you too much LOL
Shaving the wheels is changing the offset by machining the hub part of it. Not cheap, nor too good for the strength of the wheel, but it is only 2 mms. Since the offset is 38, you wanna tuck the wheel in some more (right now it sticks too far out toward the fender). Seriously, I think your problem is just the little clips at the top... look at those, they should be shaved off by now Lemme know what you find
LOLShaving the wheels is changing the offset by machining the hub part of it. Not cheap, nor too good for the strength of the wheel, but it is only 2 mms. Since the offset is 38, you wanna tuck the wheel in some more (right now it sticks too far out toward the fender). Seriously, I think your problem is just the little clips at the top... look at those, they should be shaved off by now
Lemme know what you find
22-Apr-2003, 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by bbarbulo
Sorry cosmic, I had a few days off work (fri and mon), so I put a new roof on my house, tore the deck out, and put new windows in all around. Hope I didn't inconvenience you too much LOL
Shaving the wheels is changing the offset by machining the hub part of it. Not cheap, nor too good for the strength of the wheel, but it is only 2 mms. Since the offset is 38, you wanna tuck the wheel in some more (right now it sticks too far out toward the fender). Seriously, I think your problem is just the little clips at the top... look at those, they should be shaved off by now Lemme know what you find
Sorry cosmic, I had a few days off work (fri and mon), so I put a new roof on my house, tore the deck out, and put new windows in all around. Hope I didn't inconvenience you too much
LOLShaving the wheels is changing the offset by machining the hub part of it. Not cheap, nor too good for the strength of the wheel, but it is only 2 mms. Since the offset is 38, you wanna tuck the wheel in some more (right now it sticks too far out toward the fender). Seriously, I think your problem is just the little clips at the top... look at those, they should be shaved off by now
Lemme know what you find
thank you sir!
next time you go to a westend meet, i'll get neil to buy you a coffee
22-Apr-2003, 10:40 AM
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No problemo!
LOL, maybe later this summer (after June 09). Hope you can come out, perhaps if we have a whole TCC cruise going on. Not sure yet, but might go to Shannonville May 19th to watch my buddy's JRSC'd Type R powered blue SiR run. If anyone goes, watch for a blue SiR on white Type R rims -> he's got powerrrrrr.
Sooo.... what have you found out about your rubbing?? Does your wheel self-center?
LOL, maybe later this summer (after June 09). Hope you can come out, perhaps if we have a whole TCC cruise going on. Not sure yet, but might go to Shannonville May 19th to watch my buddy's JRSC'd Type R powered blue SiR run. If anyone goes, watch for a blue SiR on white Type R rims -> he's got powerrrrrr.
Sooo.... what have you found out about your rubbing?? Does your wheel self-center?
22-Apr-2003, 10:43 AM
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ya shave the rim
roll the wheel well
change the tire size
And i'll laugh my *** off when i show you the shims that push your camber out 1-2 mm which is just enough to cause rub
Before you all start doing stupid **** like shaving wheels eliminate the easy stuff first
your going to find you save a **** load of cash that way
roll the wheel well
change the tire size
And i'll laugh my *** off when i show you the shims that push your camber out 1-2 mm which is just enough to cause rub
Before you all start doing stupid **** like shaving wheels eliminate the easy stuff first
your going to find you save a **** load of cash that way
22-Apr-2003, 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by bbarbulo
offset is to blame... and since you have less offset than should be 38 vs 40mm you can just have them shaved or simply sell them... 2 mm is just enough to cause problems. I'd say you're rubbing on the clip that holds the wheel liner at the top, and maybe a little bit on the middle of the front part of the liner, maybe just a bit at full lock and some compression.... I don't think you are rubbing in the back, though if you are... it'll be on that damn black strip which you can just remove. I recommend shaving your wheels or going to a 195/50/16 tire. That is assuming all else fails (like the alignment). Question: Does your wheel self-center after taking a corner?? You know, like when the steering wheel spins back by itself if you let it go... that's a HUGE indication of steering/susp geometry.
offset is to blame... and since you have less offset than should be 38 vs 40mm you can just have them shaved or simply sell them... 2 mm is just enough to cause problems. I'd say you're rubbing on the clip that holds the wheel liner at the top, and maybe a little bit on the middle of the front part of the liner, maybe just a bit at full lock and some compression.... I don't think you are rubbing in the back, though if you are... it'll be on that damn black strip which you can just remove. I recommend shaving your wheels or going to a 195/50/16 tire. That is assuming all else fails (like the alignment). Question: Does your wheel self-center after taking a corner?? You know, like when the steering wheel spins back by itself if you let it go... that's a HUGE indication of steering/susp geometry.
22-Apr-2003, 11:20 AM
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^^^ Jackass
cosmic, generally, the rear camber can be fixed by using shims between the upper little lateral link and the chassis. It's the little link that's in the upper part of the susp next to the spring... you'll see what I mean. I didn't read the whole post, but are you rubbing front or back??
cosmic, generally, the rear camber can be fixed by using shims between the upper little lateral link and the chassis. It's the little link that's in the upper part of the susp next to the spring... you'll see what I mean. I didn't read the whole post, but are you rubbing front or back??
22-Apr-2003, 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by bbarbulo
^^^ Jackass
cosmic, generally, the rear camber can be fixed by using shims between the upper little lateral link and the chassis. It's the little link that's in the upper part of the susp next to the spring... you'll see what I mean. I didn't read the whole post, but are you rubbing front or back??
^^^ Jackass
cosmic, generally, the rear camber can be fixed by using shims between the upper little lateral link and the chassis. It's the little link that's in the upper part of the susp next to the spring... you'll see what I mean. I didn't read the whole post, but are you rubbing front or back??
i'll check it out this week and let everyone know
thanks again
22-Apr-2003, 02:02 PM
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Originally posted by SiR Power
I think it's cause your tire width is 205. The wheel is now closer to your fender and will rub on bumps.
I think it's cause your tire width is 205. The wheel is now closer to your fender and will rub on bumps.
