madrid2k

Hi:

I just picked up a 95 stock Teg with approx. 200 on the engine.

I've heard a lot of conflicting opinions on this subject, but I think TOCivics has a lot of collective expertise.

Do you guys think it's a good idea to start using synthetic oil on an 11 year old engine with 200K in mileage?

If it's not a good idea, what grade oil do you suggest I use on an older engine?

Thanks.

1sykcoupe

no don't use synthetic now. use 10w30 if you don't burn alot of oil. if if it does go with something thicker.

rjngo

you can also try those high mileage oil

imported_Cam Stableford

A friend of mine is currently a pilot with Air Canada. Before his flying career he was a mechanic with Purolator, and before that, with Honda. He just picked up an 89 Accord with 290,000 km on the clock.

The first thing he's doing is changing it over to Amsoil.

My son in law just changed over his 1998 Nissan Altima... 310,000 km on the clock .... not burning, leaking, or using any oil, increased fuel economy right off the bat.

If you want the benefits that synthetic can give you (75% less wear than dino, increased fuel economy, cleaner exhaust, better cold weather performance, extended drain intervals, etc, etc), and the engine is mechanically sound, don't even think twice about it.

If you're not concerned about longevity of the motor, or other benefits, then just go dino.

imported_starboy869

I would say switch if your engine isn't burning huge amount of oil. However if your burning a lot of oil already it's time to replace / fix the engine.

imported_Cam Stableford

madrid2k

Thanks for the replies.

I just picked up the Teg last weekend, so it's too preliminary for me to gauge if the engine is burning oil.

Cam - yeah I know the benefits of synthetic - my Pilot's been on synthetic since its first oil change. No offense, but I can't really view your opinion as being overly objective

But, I may start ordering Amsoil from you to save some additional dollars. Thanks.

chris_si98

man if you start switching to synthetic its stupid. Your motors lasted 200xxxkm with convent oil. and it can last another 200xxxkm with it. If its burning oil, amsoil will NOT fix it, its not a engine rebuilder, its a lubricant. Use 10w40 if its burning oil, or 10w30 with lucas.

imported_starboy869

He never said that his engine was burning oil and looking for a fix.

bbarbulo

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I'd start with 5W30 Castrol GTX and if it shows that it's burning oil, then try the high mileage 5W30 formula. If it still seems to burn oil, I'd switch to the expenvie, but oh-so-worthwhile 5W40 from Castrol, or even Mobil. Those are intended for use on hard working diesel engines, but also meet gasoline engine specs, and are perfect weight for an oil burner in cold climate.

imported_Cam Stableford

Hey, no offense taken.

Of course my opinion is not objective (that would be silly ) ... but neither is anybody else's who has an opinion here ... hopefully, you can weigh all the unobjective opinions, and form your own opinion ... do what makes you feel good.

All I'm saying is that, if the engine is mechanically sound, there should be no inherant fear of using synthetics at any mileage.

Only you can decide if there is a benefit to you.

Cheers

Cam

chris_si98

[QUOTE]Originally posted by starboy869
He never said that his engine was burning oil and looking for a fix. [/QUOTE

thats why i said IF it's burning oil

imported_Sivic2000

The factory recommended oil for your car is regular 5W-30, thats probably what its had up to this point, I dont see any reason to change.

Unless you have a racing car, there are no proven benefits to synthetics over dino unless maybe you don't want to change your oil as often, since synthetic can protect for a longer time.

imported_Cam Stableford

madrid2k just asked a for our opinions.

Is is time to pull up a seat and get the popcorn?

imported_Cam Stableford

He was just looking for a reliable beater to go to Pearson and back from Hamilton. The car sits there for 3 or 4 days at a time.

bbarbulo

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if you can't add something valuable to a thread, then shut the **** up.

imported_Turbo-D

Motul is by far a better oil. I've seen it first hand add 8WHP to a car on the dyno. Far superior then Amsoil. Amsoil is a poor mans synthetic. I'd go with Mobil if i wanted to go cheap. Other then that theres nothing better then Motul. As for older cars and synthetic, does any car really need synthetic? Probubly not. But when it adds HP who can argue?? Goodluck.

ELGUY

Wow, this thread went to hell fast. If your actually serious, dont talk to bbarbulo like that or anyone else on this site. I was going to offer some advice but not sure I want to now. If anyone else is reading this, I wouldnt go heavier than a 10w30 in our engines for regular use, especially in the winter (5w30). There is no harm swapping to synthetic in a higher mileage engine. It may unmask a problem that is already there, but not likely in a 200k integra motor. Thats a tough motor and at a mileage, that I would still consider fresh. Ive swapped three previous cars to syn at over 200k with no issues.

civicmaple96

Go with synthetic

VTEC_Thunder

LOL...

I've decided to stay out of oil threads altogether now because the same thing happens every time.

We all have different opinions of what works best, and no matter what any of us say, there is always an argument about it.

madrid2k, try some different oils to see what works best for you.

As for the rest of you guys, just let it go. Nobody is right. There are many different oils that can work so stop cursing at eachother, state your opinion and let that be the end of it.


Thanks.