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Old 19-Jan-2005, 04:05 PM
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man i hate ricers with a passion
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Old 19-Jan-2005, 04:19 PM
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GSR swap man. Drop in some P30's cams, p&p and youll have a hell of a setup!
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Old 19-Jan-2005, 04:41 PM
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GSR swap man. Drop in some P30's cams, p&p and youll have a hell of a setup!
Yes but still just alittle shy of the 400hp mark.
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In response to the non-factual info/BS I have this to say:

Just so you know, I've done ALL the work on my car, eng, trans, suspension, brakes, and other isht etc etc except for the bodywork/paint.


If you've checked around for CTR/ITR motors you'll find they are all in the $4500-5500 range.

If your going for GSR swap, your looking at about $3500-4500 with/without LSD.

Not trying to flame you, this is factual info, not BS. I think you'll find most of this info is unanimous I was just trying to show you the reality of things $$$ wise and help you with your search.
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ya man i know just i was saying i have 5000 this year not for the whole project i am planning to have this car for a long *** time and am gonna put tons of $$$ into it and need to know if my platform is solid enough as is or a swap will proly be needed
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1st thing is to fix whtever rust you may have, then to do susp and brakes... then worry about the motor.

I can put a 454 on a turd, and the turd will fall apart. so just make sure the car you put the motor into is up to the task... esp after 16/17 years of abuse
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Old 19-Jan-2005, 06:52 PM
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^^thats what i told him... but he has to be able to keep up with me

and i am by no means fast yet...(yet...)

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btw.... kimmet, when we runnin that compression test on your d16? that will determine what you should do
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Old 19-Jan-2005, 06:58 PM
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Originally posted by bbarbulo
[B]1st thing is to fix whtever rust you may have,
nothing like a stock rusted out DX run a 11flat madd sleeper yo!!

Bodywork is easy, dont be afraid!!
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Old 19-Jan-2005, 10:37 PM
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Why not swap to a B18c5 and save up another summer and throw a turbo on that??
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Old 20-Jan-2005, 09:25 AM
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cuz a c5 is a waste for boost... its an all motor engine.... for boost get a c1 or something...
even the old engine he has

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if you really wanna go with boost in the long run, grab a b18b (cause they are cheap and a dime a dozen) and a b16 tranny and pr3 head and go ls/vtec.....but leave the pistons alone for this season (if you plan on boosting why waste money on pistons to raise the comp?)
L/s vtec's are great for boost and fun NA too.
You gotta decide before hand NA or turbo...they are two totally different ways of buildin up an enigine.
b18c5 gets my vote, but if u wanna boost either go all out on the d-series, sleeve it crazy low comp pistons and lots of boost, which kinda seems silly to me b/c your limiting yourself. Or get a b18b, b/c they can handle decently high psi levels with minimal work and stock internals.
Doing the work yourself will save you lots of money and be a great learning experience.
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Originally posted by bbarbulo
1st thing is to fix whtever rust you may have, then to do susp and brakes... then worry about the motor.
this is an excellent idea as always bbarbulo. You car doesn't have to be "fast" to have lots of fun with a good suspension setup.

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I can put a 454 on a turd, and the turd will fall apart. so just make sure the car you put the motor into is up to the task... esp after 16/17 years of abuse

yeah why waste money on a car thats not worthy and won't last you as long as u plan on keepin it?

I think this year you need to focus on gettin ur car up to par, then next year worry about makin it fast.
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ok i appricate all the input and i am pretty sure immjsut gonna boost my d16. i think its the right choice because my d16 is almost the perfect engine for boosting thanx for all the input even
the bill****....... lol just kidding thanx guys
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Old 03-Feb-2005, 04:58 PM
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but i wouldnt mind some more input please!
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Old 06-Feb-2005, 10:14 AM
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hmmm ive heard quite a bit of buzz about the b20 with b16 tranny hmm.. im likeing the idea of a torquey engine with nice short gears what would a swap like this run me axels, mounts ecu everything???
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bump! cmon guys i need some more input !!!!
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Old 12-Feb-2005, 02:56 PM
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Hey,

I honestly think this is a decision that you are gonna have to make on your own. Everything depends on what you are looking for. Do you want on the spot speed or higher end speed. Are you gonna track the car or just some stoplight to stoplight.

I think everyone is gonna have different input. I realixe most like a b series swap but you have to think realistically what type of gains you want. More importantly do you want everything at once or do you wanna do a slow build up.

I have friends that went Bseries and love it I also have a few friends w/ boosted d series. I hae rode and driven both. They are both good. Bseries is instant power but you drop $3000-$3500 in one shot. Then you have to add installs misc. things and then all your bolt on power/parts. D series are alot of fun boosted & they are easy to find parts or complete blocks. <-- that setup is really fun.

I originally wanted a B however it doesnt fit into my budget anymore. Its not expensive but I have more priority for my $$ right now. So I have decided to just by a d16z6 and build it for all motor (maybe boost later.)

Thats my 2 cents!!! Have fun with the project. Just TAKE YOUR TIME you are young with $$$ make the right decision.
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Old 12-Feb-2005, 10:55 PM
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ya man i really appriaciate it... im thiking that the best thing to do with my car is to... in the long run ... boost my d16 and upgrade the internals as i get used to the power and gradually work my way up... i would really love to build this car for the track cuz crx's usually rock everything.. and im thiking that possibly this year is just gonna be body repair and making the car solid again...the people that owned these cars beet the hell out of the and mine is no different.. so thanx so much u guys i really appriaciate all of your help .... cant wait till im rocking a 500hp rex !!!
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good luck with that
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