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Old 12-Mar-2005, 07:38 PM
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Regular CAI or Short Ram ??

i am going to be lookin for a intake system soon ... so far ive heard its a useless mod and in some cases the short ram is better ?? i have a 97 coupe SI ... just wonder'd what i should look for short ram or regular intake ??
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Old 12-Mar-2005, 08:45 PM
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I have a Short Ram and i felt a difference right away in the acceleration.....

plus, you can hear the VTEC once you get that....that's always a big plus
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Old 12-Mar-2005, 10:22 PM
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okay so u would say go short ram .. anyone else have input .. any ups or downs with either? i dont really plan on doing much engine mods prolly just this intake some headers and an exhaust ...

Short Ram 1
Full Intake 0
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Old 12-Mar-2005, 10:31 PM
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Old 12-Mar-2005, 10:49 PM
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Makes no damn difference in performance, only really in sound. ITs all psycological. Personally I like the way cai's sound and look though.
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yeah i put a short ram in my car and felt no difference in performance at all. can't really hear it either because of my exhaust. it does make the pssshhhh sound when i play with the throttle under the hood.
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Old 12-Mar-2005, 11:08 PM
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I've had a SRI, CAI and the OEM intake. If you ask me, they are all the same as far as performance goes. They make noise, that's about it. Your not going ot notice the 1-3 hp, it might add. I've got an ITR airbox I'll be modding to fit this spring.
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Well for me, i've noticed a differnece and it's a fact...
and i do love the psheeeee sound it makes every time i shift

the way i know this is because my stock filter i put in on, and acclerated and stoped about 5 times, then i put in the SRI and i could notice the differnce for me 100% change

maby not for you guys, but for me
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well that 100% change for you could be 80% psychological and 20% feel. i do notice that the car breathes way better on the highway and doesn't struggle as much going around 140-150. i can't hear the psshh sound though cuz my exhaust is so damn loud. i did some WOT pulls up and down east gate too when i installed it but can't really feel it. you're amazing if you can feel 1-3hp difference. i felt more of a difference on my uncles lancer with the ac on and off than when we installed the SRI.
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Old 13-Mar-2005, 12:15 AM
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you actually felt a difference taken out the AC???
i have herd of many people doing this, but i don't know,
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Old 13-Mar-2005, 12:28 AM
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Check out

http://www.tprmag.com/


They done testing on the CAI and the SR intakes found at this link here:

http://www.tprmag.com/issue/1/1_intakes.shtml

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My opinion, it doesn't do crap. Intakes are for noise. If you like the sound, buy one.

I've had a CAI, SRI, and now the AEM v2. They all feel the same as stock. When I installed my SRI (which was my first intake), I thought I had more power, but it was really all psychological. I do find myself pushing the gas pedal harder, because I like the sound.

If your buying the intake for performance gains, please don't waste your money. I've been through my share of intakes, and my car is only 1 year old. I know there are website's just like AEM's that show gains of like 5-10hp, but look where those numbers are on the chart. Its usually near redline when you hit those numbers. Who really redlines their daily driver in every gear.
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no i mean turn on the ac and turn off....lol
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Originally posted by SaYjAiBaO
no i mean turn on the ac and turn off....lol
i just haven't talk to anyone that really did it
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Old 13-Mar-2005, 02:33 AM
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The problem with short rams is your sucking in hot engine bay air. The stock Airbox is black plastic and covered up for a reason. It blocks out the heat. But true cold air's are still the best. The dyno sheet's don't show because the car is stationary. When the car is moving at 100km/h its almost creating a Ram air effect. Not to mention the intake side and Filter is right outside the engine bay suckign REAL cold air. Theoretically they are the best. But If you think a couple hundred bucks for a few HP is a waste than don't bother. I think its worth it but to each is his own. YOu coudl always just drop a K&N in teh stock box. Economical, Easy to install ,and You still get a bit louder intake noise. Not to mention you never have to throw it away.
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Originally posted by Dr.K
The problem with short rams is your sucking in hot engine bay air. The stock Airbox is black plastic and covered up for a reason. It blocks out the heat. But true cold air's are still the best. The dyno sheet's don't show because the car is stationary. When the car is moving at 100km/h its almost creating a Ram air effect. Not to mention the intake side and Filter is right outside the engine bay suckign REAL cold air. Theoretically they are the best. But If you think a couple hundred bucks for a few HP is a waste than don't bother. I think its worth it but to each is his own. YOu coudl always just drop a K&N in teh stock box. Economical, Easy to install ,and You still get a bit louder intake noise. Not to mention you never have to throw it away.
I don't know how much more cold air an CAI will get then a SRI, the steel piping will still start heating up unless it's plastic, but i have not seen any CAI make out of plastic. now my SRI filter is placed over where the stock tubing is where it would feed the stock air box go get the colder air, now travelling at 100km/h how much hot air do you think will linger in your engine bay . they are pretty much the same thing, you will not fell any hp improvement no matter what people say, what i do feel is that a SRI has better responce when you hit the gas then a CAI.
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Old 13-Mar-2005, 10:01 AM
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the stock intake would be the same as sri...
the tubing is located in the exact same place and it might be a little better then the stock one as there are fewerbends thus creating better air flow than your stock intake...

as for sucking in hot air it will suck in the same temperature are as the stock intake as it is in the exact loaction...
it might suck in more air as there is more flow do to the filter (depending on which one you have) and the shape of the intake...

now a cai is better, but at high speeds air is comming into your engine n e how, and hell we're in canada so we always have "cold" intake almost year round...
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well you can't really compair the 1 1/2' - 2' stock tube to a 3' tube, the SRI also are straight tubed not like those little rib-bit's on the stock intakes.

I never said the SRI is better then a CAI nor vise versus, they have there ups and downs on the power curve. Most place's that I have read about CAI and SRI testing is that the CAI is about 3 degree's colder, which no way will that make 5-10 WHP more then an SRI. I think you will be lucky if you get 5 WHP from either one of them.

The only thing I like better about an SRI is the throttle response as stated above.

this topic has been debated so many times, it's just like what's better a Super Charger or Turbo, or a 4-2-1 or 4-1 header, they both have there up's and down's
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i felt a differece in throttle response.. cai had slight bog feel off the line obviously it has to take air in form down low.. but in higher rpm it felt a to have a bit more pull...
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