Ractive coilover springs
16-Apr-2003, 09:25 AM
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Yes, stock is way better than cheap parts... that's all I'm saying. I've riden in stock cars that feel like slop cuz the springs are so soft, yet I had to break a sweat trying to get the damn thing to break traction. I mean, I had to dive into an intersection corner at 80 km/h to get her to drift... this thing had sooooo much body roll I had my face in the glovebox, but it wouldn't break traction!!! Damn VW with their soft springs and Bilstein shocks 
16-Apr-2003, 12:57 PM
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Originally posted by SW20 MR2
IMO, I would rather stay stock than put inferior parts on my car.
IMO, I would rather stay stock than put inferior parts on my car.
16-Apr-2003, 01:15 PM
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Originally posted by PULOVR
I just wish some of you would understand that the average guy/girl wants an affordable way to get the car lower. He or she sometimes doesn't take care of the car 100% of the time....therefore, a more expensive alternative would be wasted money when it comes to them.
And DON"T blame the coilover if you have a bouncy ride.....you either went too low, or you need to get new struts/shocks.
I just wish some of you would understand that the average guy/girl wants an affordable way to get the car lower. He or she sometimes doesn't take care of the car 100% of the time....therefore, a more expensive alternative would be wasted money when it comes to them.
And DON"T blame the coilover if you have a bouncy ride.....you either went too low, or you need to get new struts/shocks.
16-Apr-2003, 04:45 PM
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if the coilovers seize will u still be able to height adjust if u spray some WD40 ? Also what doyou use to lubricate the coilovers and how do you do it?
16-Apr-2003, 04:54 PM
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it's not as easy as WD40 when they seize - pretty much fooked. Preventitive maint. is the key... silver anti-seize lube, then run the coilover all the way up, all the way down, then adjust to where you want it and tighten a little bit. Do this twice a year...
16-Apr-2003, 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by JookSingKid
just a question:
Describe the difference you feel in the 'ride' between a civic and an integra
just a question:
Describe the difference you feel in the 'ride' between a civic and an integra
barbulo I think you met my buddy at fridays meet with the red integra. he has koni reds and h&r sport. I guess my question is, if I run the same setup in my civic, will my ride feel comparable to the integra?
16-Apr-2003, 05:13 PM
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I just had deja vu...
16-Apr-2003, 05:15 PM
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Ya, I met him... yes, of course it will feel the same... you have a front sway bar, but not the rear... sway bars have nothing to do with how solid a car feels... that's a lot more of a perception issue than anything else. (a LOT to do with noise dampening) Don't forget the 92 civic came out first, then the 94 integra came out with the EXACT same platform... so you can't tell me that one is superior to the other. 
You can use his springs cuz I think he said he's lookin to swap... but the shocks may be questionable, depending on the width of the rear fork...check part numbers on the Konis to be sure. If you want a rear sway, I have the GSR one still. If you still feel flimsy, there are three things you should do... get bushings, get good quality braces, and finally Dynomat your car. This will make it feel like a friggin Bank of Canada vault.
You can use his springs cuz I think he said he's lookin to swap... but the shocks may be questionable, depending on the width of the rear fork...check part numbers on the Konis to be sure. If you want a rear sway, I have the GSR one still. If you still feel flimsy, there are three things you should do... get bushings, get good quality braces, and finally Dynomat your car. This will make it feel like a friggin Bank of Canada vault.
16-Apr-2003, 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by bbarbulo
At least the search feature says so.
16-Apr-2003, 06:23 PM
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opinions are great to have... pushing your opnion on others isnt...
putting down some information is one thing... forcing others or putting others down for not accepting is bad..
a/b/c/d/e/f/g/h................ you get the point.. everyone is diff and to each their own.
putting down some information is one thing... forcing others or putting others down for not accepting is bad..
a/b/c/d/e/f/g/h................ you get the point.. everyone is diff and to each their own.
17-Apr-2003, 12:46 AM
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Originally posted by loudsubz
opinions are great to have... pushing your opnion on others isnt...
putting down some information is one thing... forcing others or putting others down for not accepting is bad..
a/b/c/d/e/f/g/h................ you get the point.. everyone is diff and to each their own.
opinions are great to have... pushing your opnion on others isnt...
putting down some information is one thing... forcing others or putting others down for not accepting is bad..
a/b/c/d/e/f/g/h................ you get the point.. everyone is diff and to each their own.
As for "inferior parts".....who says.....you? Have you installed both types, and tested them over extended periods of time? Because I have, and that is why I said what I said.
You got CG"s? Good for you....you want a craker now?
Like I said before, my new car right now is a 4x4...I drive it to and from work.........I want the gap between my tire and well to be reduced........I'M SAVING FOR A HOUSE.....therefore, those more expensive ones are not worth it for me.
Why can't you understand this? I have seen people like you that put down others for not going with the "cool" toys. But in the end, I still have a car that rides pretty good, and gets me to where I need to go.
I had ST on my old car, and I loved them, but right now in my life I have better things to spend my money on than a $1500 set of coilovers.....and that kind of cash doesn't really bother me, but your coments kinda erked me.
17-Apr-2003, 08:53 AM
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PULOVR + loudsubz, is that directed to me??
loudsubz, I don't think I was forcing anyone to anything... just saying the reason I run what I run....
PULOVR, no, I do not have Ground Control anymore, they were too cheap for me
j/k I loved them, but I felt matched springs and shocks would be EVEN better, so I HAD to get threaded body coilovers. Where I live property is cheap, so I didn't have to save much to buy a house, not like TO where the avg house is like $300K 
But then again, 
if you can't afford it, don't do it. What is so bad about that... drive a STOCK car, like 95% of the population. I drive a STOCK Saturn every day to work... what doesn't kill me makes me stronger LOL That's all I'm saying... drive stock - don't modify. If you modify, do it RIGHT. Now, these are just my "opinions" 
you can do whatever you want.
loudsubz, I don't think I was forcing anyone to anything... just saying the reason I run what I run....
PULOVR, no, I do not have Ground Control anymore, they were too cheap for me
j/k I loved them, but I felt matched springs and shocks would be EVEN better, so I HAD to get threaded body coilovers. Where I live property is cheap, so I didn't have to save much to buy a house, not like TO where the avg house is like $300K But then again, if you can't afford it, don't do it. What is so bad about that... drive a STOCK car, like 95% of the population. I drive a STOCK Saturn every day to work... what doesn't kill me makes me stronger LOL That's all I'm saying... drive stock - don't modify. If you modify, do it RIGHT. Now, these are just my "opinions" you can do whatever you want.
17-Apr-2003, 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by bbarbulo
PULOVR + loudsubz, is that directed to me??
loudsubz, I don't think I was forcing anyone to anything... just saying the reason I run what I run....
PULOVR, no, I do not have Ground Control anymore, they were too cheap for me j/k I loved them, but I felt matched springs and shocks would be EVEN better, so I HAD to get threaded body coilovers. Where I live property is cheap, so I didn't have to save much to buy a house, not like TO where the avg house is like $300K But then again, if you can't afford it, don't do it. What is so bad about that... drive a STOCK car, like 95% of the population. I drive a STOCK Saturn every day to work... what doesn't kill me makes me stronger LOL That's all I'm saying... drive stock - don't modify. If you modify, do it RIGHT. Now, these are just my "opinions" you can do whatever you want.
PULOVR + loudsubz, is that directed to me??
loudsubz, I don't think I was forcing anyone to anything... just saying the reason I run what I run....
PULOVR, no, I do not have Ground Control anymore, they were too cheap for me
j/k I loved them, but I felt matched springs and shocks would be EVEN better, so I HAD to get threaded body coilovers. Where I live property is cheap, so I didn't have to save much to buy a house, not like TO where the avg house is like $300K But then again, if you can't afford it, don't do it. What is so bad about that... drive a STOCK car, like 95% of the population. I drive a STOCK Saturn every day to work... what doesn't kill me makes me stronger LOL That's all I'm saying... drive stock - don't modify. If you modify, do it RIGHT. Now, these are just my "opinions" you can do whatever you want.
17-Apr-2003, 10:39 AM
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when i bought my car.... it already had R1 coilovers installed
and it was a bouncy bumpy ride.......cornering was great... but how many corners am i gonna take living downtown???
previous to this I've also had koni/rensport springs (on my old civic) the ride was good... but still bumpy and bouncy... and that was with the new shocks
the flip side is ......i had my koni/H&R combo installed at altech a few days ago...and even on my ride home i noticed the difference.... the ride was stiff...BUT SMOOTH.....cornering is even better
now i know the tein setup or skunk 2 setup is different than what i have..... BUT i can say i've had both (a cheap set up...and one that costs a lil more
)
and spending money on the proper setup is well worth the money
and it was a bouncy bumpy ride.......cornering was great... but how many corners am i gonna take living downtown???
previous to this I've also had koni/rensport springs (on my old civic) the ride was good... but still bumpy and bouncy... and that was with the new shocks
the flip side is ......i had my koni/H&R combo installed at altech a few days ago...and even on my ride home i noticed the difference.... the ride was stiff...BUT SMOOTH.....cornering is even better
now i know the tein setup or skunk 2 setup is different than what i have..... BUT i can say i've had both (a cheap set up...and one that costs a lil more
) and spending money on the proper setup is well worth the money
17-Apr-2003, 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by cosmic
when i bought my car.... it already had R1 coilovers installed
and it was a bouncy bumpy ride.......cornering was great... but how many corners am i gonna take living downtown???
previous to this I've also had koni/rensport springs (on my old civic) the ride was good... but still bumpy and bouncy... and that was with the new shocks
the flip side is ......i had my koni/H&R combo installed at altech a few days ago...and even on my ride home i noticed the difference.... the ride was stiff...BUT SMOOTH.....cornering is even better
now i know the tein setup or skunk 2 setup is different than what i have..... BUT i can say i've had both (a cheap set up...and one that costs a lil more )
and spending money on the proper setup is well worth the money
when i bought my car.... it already had R1 coilovers installed
and it was a bouncy bumpy ride.......cornering was great... but how many corners am i gonna take living downtown???
previous to this I've also had koni/rensport springs (on my old civic) the ride was good... but still bumpy and bouncy... and that was with the new shocks
the flip side is ......i had my koni/H&R combo installed at altech a few days ago...and even on my ride home i noticed the difference.... the ride was stiff...BUT SMOOTH.....cornering is even better
now i know the tein setup or skunk 2 setup is different than what i have..... BUT i can say i've had both (a cheap set up...and one that costs a lil more
) and spending money on the proper setup is well worth the money
17-Apr-2003, 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by bbarbulo
PULOVR + loudsubz, is that directed to me??
loudsubz, I don't think I was forcing anyone to anything... just saying the reason I run what I run....
PULOVR, no, I do not have Ground Control anymore, they were too cheap for me j/k I loved them, but I felt matched springs and shocks would be EVEN better, so I HAD to get threaded body coilovers. Where I live property is cheap, so I didn't have to save much to buy a house, not like TO where the avg house is like $300K But then again, if you can't afford it, don't do it. What is so bad about that... drive a STOCK car, like 95% of the population. I drive a STOCK Saturn every day to work... what doesn't kill me makes me stronger LOL That's all I'm saying... drive stock - don't modify. If you modify, do it RIGHT. Now, these are just my "opinions" you can do whatever you want.
PULOVR + loudsubz, is that directed to me??
loudsubz, I don't think I was forcing anyone to anything... just saying the reason I run what I run....
PULOVR, no, I do not have Ground Control anymore, they were too cheap for me
j/k I loved them, but I felt matched springs and shocks would be EVEN better, so I HAD to get threaded body coilovers. Where I live property is cheap, so I didn't have to save much to buy a house, not like TO where the avg house is like $300K But then again, if you can't afford it, don't do it. What is so bad about that... drive a STOCK car, like 95% of the population. I drive a STOCK Saturn every day to work... what doesn't kill me makes me stronger LOL That's all I'm saying... drive stock - don't modify. If you modify, do it RIGHT. Now, these are just my "opinions" you can do whatever you want.
That can be applied to anything... someone could say "If you cant afford a $1000 Head Unit, dont upgrade from stock.." while others are using some $150 Jensen unit and loving it... I would never say "Stay Stock" its just a matter of what you want to spend your money on.
17-Apr-2003, 11:44 AM
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loudsubz, actually, I apply this rule universally...
I "upgraded" to a Pioneer DEH6000 in Dec 1998 for $500, just to have a CD player in my car... But I didn't buy a $150 deck... I bought the highest level "reasonable" deck I could w/o having to put amps in (like some comp decks w/o any internal amps at all). Recently, I went to the RSX deck... better looks to suit the interior of the car plus as far as I can tell... amazing quality.
I didn't say "You must spend a minimum of $3000 on the susp", I just say to choose your components wisely. One of the coolest setups I had on mine was full stock 2000 SiR struts, practically brand new... they were AMAZING, and cheap too!!! That's all I'm saying. I tried them out, loved them, sold them...
I "upgraded" to a Pioneer DEH6000 in Dec 1998 for $500, just to have a CD player in my car... But I didn't buy a $150 deck... I bought the highest level "reasonable" deck I could w/o having to put amps in (like some comp decks w/o any internal amps at all). Recently, I went to the RSX deck... better looks to suit the interior of the car plus as far as I can tell... amazing quality.
I didn't say "You must spend a minimum of $3000 on the susp", I just say to choose your components wisely. One of the coolest setups I had on mine was full stock 2000 SiR struts, practically brand new... they were AMAZING, and cheap too!!! That's all I'm saying. I tried them out, loved them, sold them...
17-Apr-2003, 12:10 PM
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all those $100- $600 coilovers are junk real coilovers are worth from anywhere $850 and up
