PowerFC Users - Any here
15-Jan-2007, 08:12 PM
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PowerFC Users - Any here
I'm wondering if there are any PowerFC users here. It's a pretty popular ECU for 240 guys so just checkin in on the civic crowd.
At this point I don't need to know that Crome is cheaper...I'm just intested to know if any civic guys in TO are PowerFC users.
At this point I don't need to know that Crome is cheaper...I'm just intested to know if any civic guys in TO are PowerFC users.
16-Jan-2007, 06:43 AM
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16-Jan-2007, 09:42 PM
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only available in Japanese?!?!?!
And no self-diagnosis facility?
No map trace?
WTF?
Sounds like a very expensive alternative to a proven, cheap, effective program such as crome.
If i had a bunch of money to waste, and could read/understand japanese, i'd prolly give it a try.
And no self-diagnosis facility?
No map trace?
WTF?
Sounds like a very expensive alternative to a proven, cheap, effective program such as crome.
If i had a bunch of money to waste, and could read/understand japanese, i'd prolly give it a try.
17-Jan-2007, 08:24 AM
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Well - that review is a few years old. There are now many support outlets in English.
Also, there are self-diagnosis sections and map-trace...they just didn't mention it in the article.
But I'm not suprised to see you in here flogging Crome
Also, there are self-diagnosis sections and map-trace...they just didn't mention it in the article.
But I'm not suprised to see you in here flogging Crome
17-Jan-2007, 10:15 AM
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ya, crome is free, you can't go wrong with free engine management IMO.
I'd love to try it though, but i couldn't justify the cost, given how well i've run even high WHP cars daily driven on crome.
Buy a powerFC and i'll help you tune it for free.
I'd love to try it though, but i couldn't justify the cost, given how well i've run even high WHP cars daily driven on crome.
Buy a powerFC and i'll help you tune it for free.
17-Jan-2007, 05:27 PM
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Well, free is a bit of a misconception. You can't simply download Crome and tune a car. That being said, it is definately a cheap(er) solution.
And I've had a PowerFC...had one in my SR20DET 240sx last season... it is a very nice system.
And I've had a PowerFC...had one in my SR20DET 240sx last season... it is a very nice system.
17-Jan-2007, 06:19 PM
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well it is free.
The customer doesn't have to buy crome.
The customer just pays the tuner to make a custom program using crome. Unlike hondata/neptune/emanage/haltec/motec/powerFC where you have to purchase the unit AND pay someone to tune it.
The customer doesn't have to buy crome.
The customer just pays the tuner to make a custom program using crome. Unlike hondata/neptune/emanage/haltec/motec/powerFC where you have to purchase the unit AND pay someone to tune it.
18-Jan-2007, 05:58 AM
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Well - you've only painted a picture of half the market.
What about the guys that want to do it themselves.
PowerFC - plug and play and go tuning.
Crome - Free Software...now go buy Crome Pro licence, Chip Burner, Emulator, datalogging cables, specialty socketing tools and a laptop.
Doesn't sound too free to me.
What about the guys that want to do it themselves.
PowerFC - plug and play and go tuning.
Crome - Free Software...now go buy Crome Pro licence, Chip Burner, Emulator, datalogging cables, specialty socketing tools and a laptop.
Doesn't sound too free to me.
18-Jan-2007, 11:07 AM
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well there are other options.
You could just use cromefree and ecu control for datalogging. You don't NEED a real time programmer. There are plenty of DIY'ers out there doing it like this.
But to be comparable to the PowerFC, you're right you'll need a real time programmer ($175), datalogger ($50), burner ($100) and Pro license ($150) and a laptop which you'll need in order to tune with ANY software (including the PowerFC) and of course a wideband o2 setup (again which you'll need to tune with anything).
So the $475 you'll spend for all of the stuff you'll need to tune with cromePRO is still way cheaper than any other option out there (except neptune, b/c its $450 US and comes with a real time programmer and datalogging setup built into it).
But we digress from the point.
If you're planning on using PoweFC let me know b/c i'd love to experience it firsthand to compare for myself.
You could just use cromefree and ecu control for datalogging. You don't NEED a real time programmer. There are plenty of DIY'ers out there doing it like this.
But to be comparable to the PowerFC, you're right you'll need a real time programmer ($175), datalogger ($50), burner ($100) and Pro license ($150) and a laptop which you'll need in order to tune with ANY software (including the PowerFC) and of course a wideband o2 setup (again which you'll need to tune with anything).
So the $475 you'll spend for all of the stuff you'll need to tune with cromePRO is still way cheaper than any other option out there (except neptune, b/c its $450 US and comes with a real time programmer and datalogging setup built into it).
But we digress from the point.
If you're planning on using PoweFC let me know b/c i'd love to experience it firsthand to compare for myself.
18-Jan-2007, 01:55 PM
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Originally posted by zeeman
a laptop which you'll need in order to tune with ANY software (including the PowerFC) .
a laptop which you'll need in order to tune with ANY software (including the PowerFC) .
But let's get off it.
I don't plan on using the PowerFC again...personally. I'm now moving to the AEM EMS for my 240sx.
I will however be tuning a RB26DET 240sx with a PowerFC and FC-Datalogit in a month...it should make 600rwhp.
