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Old 07-May-2004, 04:26 PM
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Ok, so my tranny is messed...

... and I have no clue what is wrong with it...

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1.) Noticed about a week ago my clutch pedal would have to travel all the way to the floor to disengage the clutch... also true to engage it... meaning if my foot was all the way to the floor and i let it up just slightly it would grab the clutch... this changed because before that i would let the clutch up more so before it would grab...

2.) Now today I can't shift into first without really pushing it in, and it makes a clink sound when I do, it feels like something is blocking it, like the 5th gear does when it wont go into gear, but i push past and it pops in finally but is really hard, sometimes it takes me 4 tries to get into gear... and it just happend this afternoon...

3.) I also notice when I downshift it wont pop into gear sometime too even if i rev match i have to put more force than usual to put it into gear..

Im clueless, is my tranny toast? or is there something I can check out?

I can barely drive it as is...
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Old 07-May-2004, 04:39 PM
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just sounds like your clutch is not engaging properly... it's not necessarily the tranny yet...
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what would cause first and 2nd gear to be stubborn and not go in well i feel like it will bend the forks if i push any harder
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Old 07-May-2004, 06:20 PM
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sometimes on the pickuptruck here if it dun go in 1 i put it in 2 and then into 1... i dunno why but it worx like just a swift action
not such a fast shift but with a 5 liter you dun need to keep it high rpm's anyways...
so what about those gas prices? 5.0l truck makes good use of that:O
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Old 07-May-2004, 06:21 PM
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your master or slucth clave are toast or your clutch assembly is really outta adjustment cause your clutch is not fully disengageing therefore causing the synchromesh to not engage and having a very rough shift and for it to be rough in and otu of gears...it is rough liek it doesnt' want to go in and out of gears withotu alot of effort correct..??? check the hydrualic system and adjsut it up or look for leaks...
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yeh dingus... like it feels as if the clutch is not disengaged all the way so it will not go in smooth... just happend all of a sudden today very weird... made driving in roush hour traffic horrible.. sometimes taking me 4-5 tries to get it into first pushing hard
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my buddy had the same problem in the winter but went away when it started warming up.
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well its warm now lol
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ya dude tranny is fine it's the clutch assembly or the slave or master, maybe clutch fork..adjust her up and look for leaks and you shoudl find your problem...get out there and fix it...lol or have fun bending shift forks...the cold was probobly causing the viscosity of the hydrualic fluid to change therefore causing clutch disengagement issues...
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dingus:

any way to test to see if either the clutch master or slave are working fine? im gonna top up with dot 3 brake fluid as it looks low, but when i go press the clutch pedal what am i looking for?

how can you tell if there not working

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ok im reading the helms and theres no troubleshooting in there at all, only for the reverse gear noise....

helms suck for troubleshooting things
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Old 07-May-2004, 09:39 PM
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ok if your topping them then yes the master is going...jsut check for fluid dripping...from anywhere around the master..ckeck the slave too for leaks aroudn the rod....that is bacially all you can do is jsut look for leaks that woudl show that the seals are blown in the cylinder....if the problem is still there let me know and I'll try to get you some info off a real maual for ya...
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Check inside the car under the carpet where the pedals are. Sometimes the master will leak inside the cabin (Mine did).

Keep us posted Matt.
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in the mean time till you fix it, it should go into gear easier, if you apply pressure to the shifter into gear, as your lifting the clutch peddle off the floor,.... it should fall into gear just before the clutch engages..
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i just read the first post but....

check your clutch fluid resevoir... same thing happened to me... not sure where it all went but it went somewhere.... topped that up and problem solved
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i had the same kinda problem, the pressure plate was cracke din two
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Originally posted by 91si
i had the same kinda problem, the pressure plate was cracke din two
same here...same exact problem...my clutch was toast so i got it replaced...

I thought it was the tranny too...I would have it looked at asap b4 u get stuck in crazy traffic like i did
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ok, so after you flushed, filled, and bled your clutch hydraulics... does it still happen? Cuz if so, then your pressure plate is messed up, or your clutch has fallen apart for the amateur stick driving
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clutch all the way the disc is no fully releasing from the pressure plate replace it and u should have no further probs. but if you wait you can cause some harm to your syncros from forcing the gears.
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ok update:

Sam, JSK was over helping me diagnose it.

We measure the distance on 2 diff cars from when the clutch is pressed down to when it is fully up, and found on the 2 other cars the slave on the tranny moved around 1cm to 1.3 cm, now on my car it only moved around 0.5-0.6cm.

We bled the lines a few times but still no luck.

Sam called his buddy and he mentioned thats its either the master or slave.

Any other thoughts?
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maybe the seals on the pistons in the master or slave cylinder are pooched so they wont push the oil through the lines?? mine was just low fluid levels but it was such a **** ant to drive around with no clutch for a few days
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