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Old 22-Mar-2007, 07:51 AM
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Injectors

Currently touching 225whp and i was wonder what would be good injectors for me to buy.

RC Engineering saturated 550cc fuel injectors ?
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Old 22-Mar-2007, 08:01 AM
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Are you Turbo or Allmotor?

If All Motor i'd suggest 450cc injectors which are capable of supporting 300whp.

Planning on making over 300whp, go with the 550's
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Old 22-Mar-2007, 08:03 AM
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This is an all motor setup, but im planning on running nitrious soon. im using stock injectors right now.
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Old 22-Mar-2007, 08:20 AM
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nicotines RC 550s (that djtrini screwed him on and didn't end up fitting a b-series fuel rail) will work, seeing as he dished out the cash to send them off to RC and have them modded to fit a b-series fuel rail.
But most people will say 550s are way too big, but IMO, you can't really have too big of an injector. The bigger the injector you run the lower the duty cycle will be, meaning the easier you'll be taking it on the injectors. I mean, running 1000cc injectors on a n/a b20vtec would be a little insane but i think you get my point.
I'll be using 440s on my lsvtec when i spray.
Don't forget about a better fuel pump top.
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Old 22-Mar-2007, 08:22 AM
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LOL, so whats wrongwith those injectors whats the inside scope on those. They were modded to hit how? arnt they spose to fit all bsseries rails.
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Old 22-Mar-2007, 08:28 AM
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they were "supposed" to fit a b-series fuel rail, but when we tried to install them they didn't fit. So nicotine called RC with the part number off the side of the injector and they said they were for a K-series. So he sent them to RC, so they could shave some of the injector down so that they'll fit the b-series fuel rail.
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Old 22-Mar-2007, 08:40 AM
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oh god, i dunno if i wanna buy stuff thats been tamper with, not of that information was listed on the for sale thread.
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Old 22-Mar-2007, 09:06 AM
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they've been modded by RC (all they did was shave down part of the plastic around where it goes into the fuel rail). I might actually grab them off nicotine myself, b/c i might be selling the 440s i've got this weekend.
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Old 22-Mar-2007, 09:39 AM
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whats wrong with your 440cc?
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Old 22-Mar-2007, 09:41 AM
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nothing....someone might be buying them this weekend (so i can tune his boosted car).
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Old 22-Mar-2007, 09:49 AM
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oh isee, how much ntrious you think i can run on my setup before i blow somthing.
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Old 22-Mar-2007, 11:16 AM
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what dyno (shop) did you make 225whp? and, set up info?

triggs-if RC modded the injector, you have nothing to worry about
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Old 22-Mar-2007, 11:33 AM
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evryone makes 200+ horsepower these days....numbers mean everything to people...but nuimbers dont mean ****, i care how fast it accelerates, thats nothing to do with numbers and everything to do with the build, combustion space and burn quality. thats why i hate the b20 vtec when people just plop an 81mm combustion chamber on an 84mm bore, lame.
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Old 22-Mar-2007, 12:14 PM
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Hmmm

Originally posted by zeeman
nicotines RC 550s (that djtrini screwed him on and didn't end up fitting a b-series fuel rail) will work, seeing as he dished out the cash to send them off to RC and have them modded to fit a b-series fuel rail.
But most people will say 550s are way too big, but IMO, you can't really have too big of an injector. The bigger the injector you run the lower the duty cycle will be, meaning the easier you'll be taking it on the injectors. I mean, running 1000cc injectors on a n/a b20vtec would be a little insane but i think you get my point.
I'll be using 440s on my lsvtec when i spray.
Don't forget about a better fuel pump top.

Ok I haven't mentioned or retaliated back to any of Ron's (nicotin) posts about me "Screwing" him over with injectors. I sold Ron a set of injectors that were sold to me with a Golden Eagle Fuel rail, I was told they were for B series engines.

You and Ron tried installing them, with issues. Ron contacted me and advised me of the situation. Now while I was trying to get some advice, on what to do to help or solve the situation, Ron went ahead and posted some rather Negative Feedback about me in the Buyer/Seller feedback section. FAIR ENOUGH me being the kind of person I am, I totally understand where he is coming from on his end, as If it happend to me I would feel like I got ripped as well.

I PM'd Ron and offered to pay for what it costs to have the Injectors modded to work with the B series Fuel Rail. Ron's quote:

$50 to ship the injectors to RC Engineering
$45 For RC Engineering to Actually modify the Injectors
$50 for Return Priority shipping

Total: $145

I offered to Cover for what it costs to have RC modify the injectors $45. I shouldn't have to cover priority shipping costs, because somebody is impatient to wait another 3 days in shipping transit! From which I still suggested, that hey I'd like to cover 1/2 of the total cost in all fairness which would be $72.50

Now I never told Ron to go ahead and take a pissy fit, as in a few PM's we've had Andrew (Zeeman) and you self stated Ron is a Bit of a "Drama Queen"

I mean was it really necessary for RON (Nicotine) to thread crap in most of my posts or reply's in other threads? And to create a post about me insinuating that im a Liar, etc...???

I haven't been hiding from anyone, been here the whole time, and Ron still tries to make it seem like he's been trying to "get ahold" of me, when i've had not 1 call or PM from him since he's sent the injectors off to RC Engineering!

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Old 22-Mar-2007, 02:08 PM
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that's bull**** dood.

you said in your reply to me, and on the phone and i quote "i cant help out right now, i gotta deal with a motor issue and im broke"

you offered to help "when you can" which was pure bull****.

and you didnt reply back to any of my pm's or phone calls or left voice mails, untill i posted that feedback and im gonna keep bumping it up untill YOU do the right thing.

and, i never stated anywhere in a thread other than the buyer/seller feedback that you are a liar. but, i have many many pm's with so much contradiction in them - that it implies i have been lied to.


but

this isnt the place to be arguing about this ****. you ****ed me over knowingly. i had to pay for your lie. you offered no help what so ever, and im taking the hit in the end. that's the way it is.

and im a drama queen? **** you. i'd rather be a drama queen that doesnt screw people over, than to be known as a liar who rips people off. hell, even team rukus is tired of your crap.....

and: edit: you're offering a whopping $45??

considering i payed much more than that to fix your lie, that's pretty low grade.
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i will lock the thread so take it outside...
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Old 22-Mar-2007, 03:04 PM
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*hence the drama queen in you* Look at your reply.

Again Instead of responding in a civil manner, You use profanity in your response and insinuate I never tried to help you.

Again I have had NONE, ZERO, NOTHING of a response from you since you told me you were sending those injectors into RC Engineering.

You say you PM, and Phone me, and leave voicemail for me. I will gladly scan and post my Phone records to Prove, not once did you call me. And If I can find a way to prove you have not pm'd me to Atleast let me know you got the injectors back from RC.

YES at the time you informed me about the situation, you asked for YOUR MONEY BACK, and I said I could not do so at the time under the circumstances I was in (blown engine, and no job) I assured you that once you get those injectors Back in to let me know and I will do what I can to HELP YOU OUT! And cover What it cost to have those injectors modded to work for you.


I willingly F'd you over? AGAIN buddy if you knew me or knew anything about me or how I was raised........ You would Know I would never do that to ANYBODY!

Anybody who knows me, knows IM a Calm, Easy going person and I dont like Arguing or fighting with Anyone. BUT YOU and your Accusations are rediculous. And the way you get out of line in your responses alone, prove that you have a Temper problem and perhaps yes are a "Drama Queen"


Anything Else you have to say to me, You can call me or PM me, And not use up anymore of TCC's Bandwith! Im tired of you bashing MY character with your Childish Rants! And you Call me a "TCC KID"
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Old 22-Mar-2007, 03:19 PM
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LOL this is good
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Old 22-Mar-2007, 03:27 PM
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I'm staying out of the beef between Nicotine and Djtrini...i'm just the guy trying to get nicotines car finished.

I agree with LEITNER that peak numbers don't mean squat (other than for bragging rights) and that its all about power under the curve and acceleration and reliability.

Unfotunately steve, not everyone knows exactly what is needed to make serious power. MOST people don't open up the combustion chambers to 84mm when doing a b20vtec unlike you did with your 2L b18c....which i have a whole lot of sexy pictures of.
Did you do all of the porting/headwork on that bad boy yourself steve? If so, damn good job you did.

Trigga:
As for how much n20 to run, its completely up to you. How much power do you want to make? Isn't your compression like 12.5:1 thought?
What kind of system were you planning on running? Dry kit? Wet kit? Direct port (this is what i recommend for your setup)?
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Old 22-Mar-2007, 03:40 PM
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Well whatever is the safest. Yes my compresson 12.5:1

I was thinking maybe a 90 of dry would be nice.
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