imported_dan

hey i have a few question..::i have a leak in the head gasket right above the engine stamp right in the corner, the common place for them to start a little leak i think. I really dont want to change the head gasket and i was wondering if any 1 has had used products to seal them, not the ****ty tar stuff at crappytire u put in yur oil but i have seen products that claim they will completly seal the hotspots where it is leaking. Pritty sure u add it to yur rad and it seals it........And if i had to change the head gasket it cant be that hard right? as long as u get the torquing pattern and the propper torque of the head studs right RIGHT?? and make sure the timing belt is put to exactly where it was? im sure its harder than i imagine and if the head or block is alittle off i would have to machine it and all that. FUKTHAT!.. and the last thing is what gasket du u think i shud get...i have a b16head and a gsr block...stick to the oem gsr? and what shop does it good cheap..i got quoted $$300 if i get gasket but this guy is wack! ALL U CRAZY HONDA GUYS PLZZ HELP:cry:

imported_kIeRaN

how do u know where the hole in the headgasket is??

imported_dan

yea man its right above the engine stamp..between the head nd block.. its annoying cause it leaks on to the collectors and smokes..

i was thinkin of usin this wat u think?

http://www.steelseal.com/eng/howitworks.html

imported_kIeRaN

i would recomend u replace the headgasket, it will be worth it in the long run

imported_dan

hmmmm yea but i really dont wanaa... have u checked that site?
and if so who will do a good job for a reasonable price... and hav u ever done it?

Cynikal.Mindset

give it a try...seems ghetto, but I like that

imported_dan

yeaaa...but its like 50 bux us thats enuff

imported_kIeRaN

50 bux is about the price of a new headgasket why not just spend an afternoon doing it the rite way, there is plenty of info on it, just do a search, its been covered before

imported_doggy69247

that **** dosent work

I used that on my chevy beretta it worked for about a week then it all went 2 **** again it just makes green bubbles that are hard apear on the hole then they get brittle and crack off and it leaks again it sucked just get the gasket replaced

dingus88

aww your not getting the full piston steam clean action...either way it's a good job for mechanics cause that would probobly be a good 5-6 hour job easy in teh flate rate book...lol nice and expensive. pull the head off and do it right or jsut go get a newer fresh sohc zc and throw that in.

imported_dan

can someone find me a good article on hacking out changing a head gasket by yourself in a honda...... i guess the most importmart thing would be to get the torquing pattern and the propper torque of the head studs right RIGHT? and to make sure the timing belt goes back ecactly where it was?

thanks

zeeman

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its prolly not the head gasket.
This is a common problem for b16's, its the cam seal. As soon as the crappy rubber honda ones dry out they start to leak. Buy yourself a billet cam seal. I just bought one for $25 but haven't installed it yet. Also try replacing the vtec solenoid seal and the dizzy o-ring. These are much cheaper and less labour-intensive then changing the head gasket.
If it was the head gasket you would know it by the way your car runs. Does it run crappy? Is there a lot of smoke coming from the exhaust? Does it burn a lot of coolant?

imported_dan

hmmmm...yea ey... i havent noticed any powerloss,no loss in coolant either and no smoke really.... how do i install the cam seal tho...just take off the valvecover anddddd? BUT the head gasket still leaks tho...like there shouldnt b any oil commin atta it right? if so theres a leak like i can c it commin atta the head gasket u no?

imported_dan

and....regardless if my cam seals r leaking it still shouldnt leak atta the head gasket right.. like if the cam seal was leaking shouldnt it stay internal?

imported_dan

HEY actually todai i cleaned up the oil area and started the car and looked till it started to leak..ITS NOT THE HEAD GASKET ..the oil is commin from where the vtec solenoid is. like that whole piece mounted to the block.. and leaks down and looks like the head gasket was leaking but its not... so what do i need to replace? vtec solenoid seal.. cam seals? and whats a dizzy o-ring?? thanks!

imported_dan

srry the piece thats mounted to the head not block..duhhhh

imported_dan

if ne 1 has ever replaced the gasket for the VTEC solenoid piece plz give me some imput about that or anything else that leaks in that area.

zeeman

iTrader: (1)

changing the spool valve (as they call it at honda) or vtec solenoid seal is rather simple, its like 3 bolts that hold it to the head. They're like $20 from honda, since you have a b16 head order one for a 95 Del Sol DOHC VTEC. I replaced mine but it still leaks. I can't wait to get my golden eagle billet cam seal in there to stop the leak.
This is what the cam seal is. Its the black rubber peice with the arrow pointing to it in the picture.

This is where the cam seal is and what it seals.
http://student.ucr.edu/~ohe02/pics/camseal09.jpg
And this is a comparison between the crappy rubber honda one and the aftermarket billet one.
http://student.ucr.edu/~ohe02/pics/camseal10.jpg

imported_dan

zeeman..u say change the vtec solenoid seal but that prolly wont work..then u say yur waiting for the billet cam seal..so is that was i really need? the main leak comes from the triangular piece under the solenoid that i can c...is that where the gasket wud b? so is it hard to tell if it comes from there or the cam seal cause it looks like it comes from the solenoid more

thanks for yur help

imported_dan

oh and btw...why wouldnt there b 2 cam seals for each cam? sumthin du du with the vtec?