ingiro

Does anyone know where I can get Ethanol Gas and is it bad or good to use?

imported_MY SiR

Any Sunoco station. How do you think they get their Ultra to 94 Ocatane? It isn't bad but your fuel consumption will be worse. Worse fuel consumption is the trade-off for more power.

Mark

ingiro

Im looking for over 100 Octane... Where can I find that?

SuperSOHC

> 100?



You can find it in Japan!

imported_gatherer

or at the airport if you have buddies there 110 octane = jet fuel zoom zoom <--- damn I sound like a mazda commerical

The G2 Racer

You can get 100+ octane at the track.

But what do you have done to your car that would need 100+ octane?

ingiro

I havent done much but I plan to... How much would a litre cost? Approx.

EK7_DriftMania

This was my post a few months back. I have found numerous sites that teach you how to make your own "moon shine" (that's 100% ethanol). You can run that, it burns much cleaner, garantee to pass emissions with flying colors no matter what appl. you are running.
Let me give you an example of how much it costs. Maybe you have been to the LCBO and looked at those 40% acohol, they go for $30-40 for less than 1L. Ethanol is cheaper, but if you want to fuel your car up, well you can do the math.
No one wants to drive to the airport or to the race track to fuel up. That's stupid, unless you live next to the airport or race track.
I think you can ask the gas manufactureers (Sunoco, Shell...etc.) if they are willing to sell you race gas. Because the race track must get their gas from somewhere, right?
The cool thing about Ethanol gas is, if you are running an open exhaust, you can get flames going out of your exhaust.

AzimuthX

So if you have an open exhaust and use Ultra 94, you can get flames out of the pipes? Awesome

ingiro

I think the only way to get flames to come out the back it to eat some spicy chilly....

EK7_DriftMania

No...no... not 94, ethonal, pure 100% alcohol.

I do not recommand using highly flamable gases, race cars have safety gas tanks, that closes all the time. Those fuel can start burning with no sparks, if the weather is hot enough, the air can ignite the fuel. Have you seen Asian GT500 races, some guy spilt fuel and the whole car lite up.
You can try 110 octane, nothing more, for safety purposes. Or get 94 and half ethanol. By your own chemist.

EK7_DriftMania

Oh...one more thing

If you want flames coming out of your exhaust, there are two ways.
1) Aggressive camshafts (10,000 rpm) that lets the exhaust charge out before the spark would cause falmes out of your muffler - in short.

2) Use a mixture of Nitro methonime with your gas, it is so flamable you only need oxygen to ignite the gas. You can not just pour this stuff in your gas tank, you need a special vacum pump. You gain crazy horse power if you use it. The un-burnt gas will ignite again in your exhaust system, thus causing flames to come out.

[1sL0CiviC]

that is sure enough to burn your muffler too, so dont be suprised if you notice it getting louder....
just do this with a straight pipe, save yourself some headache

darkened_star

flames are cool but then again blowing urself up isnt so cool so then you have to ask yourself is it worth it and i think flames make it very worth it

EK7_DriftMania

I think flames are cool too, but it should belong on the track. Unless you have really big *****, and risk having your car taken away by the cops.

This is defintely a try for me, I will not use the fuel on a daily bases. 5-10hp on fuel is sweet......

imported_mrchaos

more flames...thread a spark plug into your exhaust tip and hook it up to a 12 volt source put a switch in there...flames on demand.

EK7_DriftMania

wow... this post was back.

I just found out more on this fuel. According to some sources, you can not run anything more then 10%, any more will damage your engine. Alcohol engines in drag cars are made of nickel alloy, so he says... got this info from a Sunoco representative. For me, I like Shell.

Spewn

The best way to run ethanol, if you want to, would be to find somewhere that you can fuel up on E85. If you still have a catalytic converter, don't use airplane fuel; it's leaded.

Running E85(85% ethanol) or even 100% ethanol will damage pretty much every seal in your engine over a very short period of time, if it's not designed *specifically* for running E85. Ask any drag racers running ethanol; they'll probably tell you that they tear apart and rebuild their engines while running ethanol, just for maintenance, more often than you fill up with gas.

EK7_DriftMania

Also, some people like me in the past have wanted to run airplane fuel. Now that I have researched everything, airplane fuel is not good for your engine. Because airplane fly high up in the air, and as you know, the higher you go the less air you have. No air = no burn. You car needs gas and air to run, thus the intake and exhaust. So, airplane fuel is for airplanes specific needs, which incorporates a high amount of oxygen and is highly flamable. Not sure if you can mix the fuel, if you are a chemist, you probably could.

imported_mrchaos

Sunoco GT Plus seems to be the highest octance rated fuel which is unleaded...its reted at 104.

Where could I get some of that in Canada?