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imported_zc_hatch 01-Oct-2003 05:12 PM

Doin up my suspension... help with parts
 
i want it o handle really good but still be drivable for my daily driver. i want to keep the price lower than 1500$ for all of the suspension stuff... so no tein stuff lol help me out guys!

imported_mugen_r 01-Oct-2003 05:26 PM

get the TEIN basic suspension, it's around 1200.00(I think)

Don't go cheap, I bought Tokico Blues and Toms coilovers and its an OK ride but I wouldn't buy this setup again.

Or buy Koni's

Astroboy 01-Oct-2003 05:56 PM

1500 for just springs and shocks or are you including tie and/or tower bars? If your planning on going the spring route, first decide how much of a drop you want, then see what springs will give you a drop in that range. Stick to quality springs like H&R, Progress or Suspension Techniques, etc...

The tein basics would be a good choice since its just a daily driver. If you want sleeves, I would go with ground control or skunk2 matched with either AGX or yellows.

red90dx 01-Oct-2003 06:03 PM

Ground Controls & Whites/Yellows make a nice setup.

imported_zc_hatch 01-Oct-2003 09:20 PM

i don't really have anything planned... want it to handle as good as it can for 1500$ or less.

dingus8 01-Oct-2003 11:22 PM

I'd say ground controls (cause you can get different spring rate) and soem koni yellows or tokico illumina's or atleast kyb agx...or jsut get soem h&R sports with agx's which woudl be a nice mild setup that will handle very well....oh ya tires are a nother consideration to...so dont' go cheap on them

imported_zc_hatch 02-Oct-2003 09:49 AM

i have tires and rims(thanks tman!) now i want to improve the handling... the 1500 would be before taxes!

imported_gatherer 02-Oct-2003 10:18 AM

ok this is what I'd recommend...

AGX or Koni Yellows... (950 for yellows or at the group buy 800)

then get some Eibach springs same size as your stock ones but stiffer... I'd say 300f 450r .... I dunno the price.... or get some ITR springs they are 300F and 300R

if you go with the ITR springs then get a 22mm progress suspension rear sway bar. (350 last I asked a friend for a quote)

then I'd suggest a Neuspeed front and rear tower bar..

and I'd suggest really good rubber.... since winter is coming bizzacks... for summer a high performance summer tire...

bbarbulo 02-Oct-2003 10:50 AM

your car is an 88?

I would consider all new bushings, AGX shocks, and Eibach Pro-Kit springs... and Progress sway bars.

imported_gatherer 02-Oct-2003 10:53 AM


Originally posted by bbarbulo
your car is an 88?

I would consider all new bushings, AGX shocks, and Eibach Pro-Kit springs... and Progress sway bars.

yes new bushing the energy suspension polyurethene bushings with graphite .... :yummy:

Astroboy 02-Oct-2003 01:55 PM


Originally posted by gatherer

if you go with the ITR springs then get a 22mm progress suspension rear sway bar. (350 last I asked a friend for a quote)

:eek: Dam thats high, who quoted that price?

bbarbulo 02-Oct-2003 01:57 PM

why Astroboy, what can you do for the Progress rear sway bar, pricewise? I have the SiR front + back currently, and I may consider an upgrade... naturally, I'd need the subrame reinforcement as well, Beaks or if Progress makes one (I know they do for the 03 SiR, but haven't seen one for the 6th gen EJ)

bbarbulo 02-Oct-2003 01:59 PM

oh, and is your price for the adjustable or non-adjustable unit? :)

Astroboy 02-Oct-2003 02:04 PM

bbarbulo

Yup, the EP/DC5 is the only one that includes the chassis reinforcement. Gimme a sec and I'll send you a price on the EK rear sway bar.

imported_gatherer 02-Oct-2003 02:10 PM

AstroBoy it was quoted about 8 months ago .... and it was a special application not the standard size they make for my car... I'm not going to name who quoted me that because I'm not in the mood to stir the **** (plus I stirred it yesterday it's someone elses turn)

my car is honda civic CX and has no sway bars ... I want a 22mm rear sway bar... with reinforcement. the standard that progress makes for my car is 19 I believe

Astroboy 02-Oct-2003 02:18 PM

I'm pretty sure for the 5th gen CX they have a 22mm bar and an adjustable 24mm bar :)

imported_Torrey 02-Oct-2003 02:40 PM

I found a great deal...

Eibach Pro-kit- $307.20
Sportline-kit- $ 286.80
KYB Adjustable- $187.00 Front $172.00 Rear
non Adjustale - $ 101.94 each corner
Koni yellows- $ 225.00 each corner

I'm getting the eibach prokit and KYB non adjustibles.

imported_zc_hatch 02-Oct-2003 06:47 PM

hmm im looking for about 1-1.75" drop and a good tight ride. something i can take to the track... i guess i will have to do my susension in stages to get good stuff

bbarbulo 03-Oct-2003 08:18 AM

then do the H&R springs if you want a stiff ride... and use KYB AGX for your budget, use left over money for a rear sway bar and a front Neuspeed strut tower brace, and a front lower tie bar.

imported_gatherer 03-Oct-2003 08:58 AM

if your looking to track the car drop is not as important as Spring rates....

imported_zc_hatch 03-Oct-2003 09:56 AM

i am aware of that... i was just wondering what springs are availiable with that springrate and that low

imported_gatherer 03-Oct-2003 10:07 AM

call up eibach.... I forget the hieght of civic springs when uncompressed but you need that take that hieght drop it by like an inch or an inch and a half... then call eibach and ask for springs with the rates 350 (with the front hieght) and 450 (with the rear hieght) then you have springs with a 1 inch to 1.5 inch drop and a good 350F/450R spring rates...

Eibach makes tons of custom sprinsg .. also I recommend linear rate springs it'll be better for the track in my opinion.

imported_zc_hatch 03-Oct-2003 03:18 PM

so what type of shock would go well with that?
-eibach springs
-_____shocks
-neuspeed stower bars(how muhc are they?)
- chassis braces
-bushing kit

imported_gatherer 03-Oct-2003 03:38 PM

koni yellows or kyb agx's it's just a matter of choice... adjustability is the key.... (kyb's are cheaper so get them)

I'd suggest a energy suspensions master kit for bushings around 500 I think

Neuspeed strat tower brace for the front and rear ...I dunno around 150 to 300 I have no clue

and a rear sway bar I'd suggest a 22 mm one from progress... bug Astroboy for his price since he hasn't mosted it (and claims it's cheaper then the price I posted)

the rear sway bar the springs and the shocks will make the biggest difference.

check this for some wicked braces:

http://www.torontocivics.com/tccforums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22154

going to have to PM SW20 MR2 for his current prices but I think the stuff is pretty cool

red90dx 03-Oct-2003 07:51 PM

500 for the bushing kit?

wow I got a deal for $220 tax in

imported_zc_hatch 03-Oct-2003 08:23 PM

gatherer... what is the diff in the benjen or whatever products? they cost alot but what is the diff from other parts that are simialr?

vtec_concpet 04-Oct-2003 04:16 AM

Seein how you want to go too the track with your civic...

the setup would be nice:

H&R Sport (use the Integra Application because they have stiffer springs rates, stiffer spring rates means increased cornering and handling)
KYB AGX Shocks
Both ITR front and rear Sway bars
Front Lower Tie Bar
Generic Rear Strut and trunk Bar
Neuspeed Front Strut Bar


www.speedstate.com has the best price on H&R Springs


but honestly if you are going to the tack the car too the track, in my eyes Eibach's springs rates are very soft, so you tend to get a lot of body roll and would get a lot of a lean going into corners..

Just use the H&R and espeically use the Integra Application, since H&R to begin with is already stiff as is, your handling will be much sharper and more responsive...but dont worry about the ride quality it aint as bad as you think, just as long as you dont go with H&R race which will rattle your brains cause of the stiffness of the ride..

see look at this comparission in spring rates:

Eibach ProKit - 290F/190R
vs.
H&R Sport - 330F/280R

this spring rates are for the civic, but you can tell which one would handle better when pushed into corners, see how stiff the H&R Sports with Civic application, but damn imagine the integra application...your handling would be off the hook but dont get a horrible ride in the proccess


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