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Little_yellow 02-Aug-2005 08:13 PM

Chipped engine, BAD fuel consumption?
 
hi guys
I got a big problem
I just brought a 96 hatch with b16a2 swaped
the problem is the fuel consumption is extream BAD
320km a tank...
the guy said that this engine has spoon chip in it.
is that the problem?
the chip just change your fuel mapping right?
what can I do?
Thank you

Pimpin-EL 02-Aug-2005 08:25 PM

how is ur driving? do u beat it often? city or highway more often? Thats juss as much as I get, the max i have gotten with pure city n no beating is 400, with pure highway meaning Long Distance trips i got 600 once n no beating once again.

Notorious 02-Aug-2005 08:43 PM

What precentage of hwy vs city driving do you do.

You may want to check your air filter, reset your ecu.

LEITNER 02-Aug-2005 08:55 PM

yes the chip consumes fuel but honestly it could be worse.

crvtecEG 02-Aug-2005 10:21 PM

Well if its not any of the other possible things you could always just put the stock b16 basemap back on the chip (re-chip the ecu).
Whats the setup... b16 w/what ecu?
How does the engine run generally speaking? Good? Rough idle? Stutter or bog at all?

bbarbulo 02-Aug-2005 11:10 PM

hyperduck or scott can rechip your ecu with a proper map.

imported_BWK 02-Aug-2005 11:18 PM

damn thats u shouldn't be complaing i get worse wif my swap i usually get 250-300 a tank but im not complaining cause i like it FAST!!!

Little_yellow 03-Aug-2005 12:37 AM

thx for the advice
yet, my friend have told me that I need to do tune up( the engine is off balance)
I will do that tomorrow with HONDA
and I should also remap the ECU right?
what can comes worse?

Little_yellow 03-Aug-2005 12:41 AM

The engine runs pretty smooth. and nothing stange when idleing ( beside the high-ptich tone. I guess that means I need a tune up)

bbarbulo 03-Aug-2005 02:31 AM

A basic tune up is always good maintenace. But the chip is your #1 problem.

Gunmetalef 03-Aug-2005 02:36 AM

i get 400ish with the same chip.. i can get more.. but i like hitting vtec here and there

bbarbulo 03-Aug-2005 02:38 AM

many things affect mileage, from weather, driving style, tranny choice, tire size, aerodynamics, city or highway drive, weight of the car, options (a/c), etc etc etc.

my EF gets better mileage than my EK if we compare stock numbers.

Little_yellow 03-Aug-2005 02:39 AM

thank guys

Scott-93HBSi 03-Aug-2005 09:33 AM

See how many Litres of fuel you're consuming.
I know a lot of civic's fuel guages aren't super acurate, and will read empty when there's still 15-20L of fuel in the tank! Check your gas receipt to see how many Litres you're actually putting in the car next time you fill up.

imported_Moe_Mentum 03-Aug-2005 09:41 AM


Originally posted by Pimpin-EL
how is ur driving? do u beat it often?
I don't see how him whacking off would affect fuel consumption

bbarbulo 03-Aug-2005 01:47 PM

LMAO :D hahahaha

blue92da 03-Aug-2005 04:44 PM

I have the same problem. I have a 96 ek cx trim with b16 swap done to it and it gives me around 400k city and 500k highway. My DA gave me better city fuel consumption anyways I'm not complaining.

Bye the way can anyone tell me how a b16a2 (usdm) runs with a P73 (type-r) ECU. More specifically would you see more gains with the type-r OBD-II vs. stock SIR OBD-II ECU or would there be a loss in power.

The reason why I ask is because I keep getting killed by a 2nd gen GSR. This GSR is only lowered and has an exhaust. My car weighs in at 2480 lbs (w full tank of gas) I know this cause I weighed it. When I raced him my tank was 1/4 full. But he kept on taking me (bad). Mind you I have a stock intake and a CX muffler but full SIR piping throughout. Can someone please advise!

Pimpin-EL 03-Aug-2005 04:52 PM


Originally posted by Moe_Mentum


I don't see how him whacking off would affect fuel consumption

lol....I wish i could have used a betta word haha

Dr.K 05-Aug-2005 02:27 AM

I have a spoon chip as well. WORST gas mileage ever. my damn 1.6 suck's as much gas as my old Carb'd 78 Malibu with a 3.2 V6.
And dude you DEFINETLY need an Exhuast. Screw the stock piping. Everyone on this forum love's OEM stuff. OEM EVERYTHING here.:yawn: I had a joe blow muffler shop straight 2" midpipe with a bigger axle back and my stock CX muffler just like you and it was choking it up bad. Get a Cheap Short ram intake and get AT LEAST a 2.25 inch exhuast. A 2.25 inch system with a proper 2.25 inch high flow cat and Resonator will be fairly quiet and give you HUGE gain's. Its not noticible at all down low but it pull's WAY harder in VTEC. You shouldn't lose to a stock GSR.Check your throttle . Mine was only opening 70% and I didn't even know it. Get some one to sit inside the car and push the gas and see if it open's fully or if you can open it further with your finger. your throttle cable might need adjusting.

Keep the chip, deal with the bad Mileage. Get I/H/E and say hello to 14's with some skill and some sticky rubber.
You only live once. Have fun

blue92da 08-Aug-2005 02:13 PM


Originally posted by Dr.K
I have a spoon chip as well. WORST gas mileage ever. my damn 1.6 suck's as much gas as my old Carb'd 78 Malibu with a 3.2 V6.
And dude you DEFINETLY need an Exhuast. Screw the stock piping. Everyone on this forum love's OEM stuff. OEM EVERYTHING here.:yawn: I had a joe blow muffler shop straight 2" midpipe with a bigger axle back and my stock CX muffler just like you and it was choking it up bad. Get a Cheap Short ram intake and get AT LEAST a 2.25 inch exhuast. A 2.25 inch system with a proper 2.25 inch high flow cat and Resonator will be fairly quiet and give you HUGE gain's. Its not noticible at all down low but it pull's WAY harder in VTEC. You shouldn't lose to a stock GSR.Check your throttle . Mine was only opening 70% and I didn't even know it. Get some one to sit inside the car and push the gas and see if it open's fully or if you can open it further with your finger. your throttle cable might need adjusting.

Keep the chip, deal with the bad Mileage. Get I/H/E and say hello to 14's with some skill and some sticky rubber.
You only live once. Have fun

Thanks for the advice! Bye the way what is the piping diameter for a civic SIR?


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